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by anygunanywhere
Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:17 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license
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Re: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license

Liberty wrote: While I don't recommend ignoring any old laws, We all break laws at some point or another.
That is true, and I violate traffic codes and other laws all of the time. With the number of laws on the books one cannot do anything without breaking a law. That is not the point of this thread.

Showing your CHL when asked for ID is the point and Charles' post affirms the requirement.

What other firearms laws are we going to publicly post that we intend to violate and then claim we are the good guys when we encounter an LEO that disarms us? We can not have it both ways.

If you do not want to go through the hassle of explaining the Utah CHL, get your Texas CHL. Problem solved.

Anygunanywhere
by anygunanywhere
Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:33 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license
Replies: 43
Views: 5029

Re: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license

mgood wrote:
I do agree that he should obey the law and display his CHL (from whatever state) when asked for ID.

But it is legal to carry in your vehicle now in Texas, with or without a CHL.
I don't believe there's anything that says you can't carry on your person in your vehicle without a CHL.
I never said it was illegal to carry on your person in your vehicle without a CHL.

If you are stopped in Texas, have a CHL and do not inform the LEO and you are discovered to be carrying and claim that you are not carrying under the authority of your CHL but under the "legal to carry in my vehicle" law, be sure to tell us how that works out for you.

This topic has been discussed many times here and the consensus opinion is that you must disclose. I certainly hope that no one new to CHL takes your advice and makes an error in judgement they will regret.

Anygunanywhere
by anygunanywhere
Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:42 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license
Replies: 43
Views: 5029

Re: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license

Trinitite wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:If you are carrying on another state's license, then you must obey all Texas laws, as others have said. This includes complying with Tex. Gov't Code §411.205 that requires the displaying of your CHL when asked for identification by a LEO or magistrate.
That's the letter of the law but think about this.

1. A cop in Texas has no way to know a Texas driver has a CHL from Utah.

2. The penalty for not showing the CHL is a suspension but Texas can only suspend a Texas CHL.

3. It's legal to carry a handgun and rifle in my car without a CHL.

4. Showing a Utah CHL might cause the cop to disarm you.

5. Anything you do or say can be used against you but what he doesn't know can't hurt you.

Practically speaking. If I had a Utah CHL I wouldn't show it to a Texas cop if he stopped me for speeding. It has too many possible disadvantages and no benefits.

Then you are saying that you will break the law. NIce way to show how CHLers are really good guys who respect the law.

If LEO asks you if you are armed, are you going to lie? If you have it on your person and he asks you to exit the vehicle then you must either admit that you have a Utah CHL or else deny you have a Utah CHL and you are carrying concealed illegally.

You are better off just showing your Utah CHL and doing what you are supposed to do.

Anygunanywhere

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