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hkshooter wrote:
Remember, the rights guaranteed by the Constitution are limits only on the government. They do not apply to other citizens or private businesses at all.

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If so, then how come the feds prosecute individuals for violating someone's civil rights?

I seem to recall lots of prosecutions for civil rights violations. Which civil rights can you violate and not be prosecuted? Maybe we ought to require a sign that lists the civil rights that can be violated, or maybe posting a sign that details which rights can be violated is and of itself a civil right that can be violated.

I don't believe thare has ever been a civil rights case brought successfully against the federal government. Givernments violate our rights with impunity and so do private businesses and individuals. The only time civil rights violations are classified as civil rights violations are when they fit into some liberal agenda or for "diversity's) sake.



Anygunanywhere.

The Annoyed Man wrote:My issue is with people that I don't know. It is simple really. If I don't know you, and you are in my house, and you are armed, I want to know that you are armed. That way, I can make sure that I am prepared to counter you in case you turn out to be hinkey.

Hinkey. I think we have a new word to go with doofi.

Annoyed,

You did not answer my question. Do you ask everyone you do not know entering your house if they are armed?

Anygun

The Annoyed Man wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:I really do not understand why people are so offended by firearms. I guess it is because most sheep are brought up to be easily offended. Last time I read the constitution there was not anything in there that said you had the right to not be offended.

Anygun

Anygun,

1) I am not offended by firearms. I have a collection of my own, and I encourage you to build your own. I encourage all citizens to exercise their RKBA. Your comments in that regard, and those of others, if directed at me, are mis-directed. That was not my point at all. My point was simply that, if someone is inside the walls of my house, I have an inherent right to know if they are armed or not. Obviously, you and others disagree, but that still does not equate to my being offended by firearms, and arguments attempting to paint it that way are specious at best.

You do have the right and responsibility to know who is armed in your house. No debate from me.

Do you ask, honestly, everyone if they are armed or not before you let them in your house? It must be quite the ice breaker that start the free flow of communication. I do not ask, at least not up until now. If I do not trust them or know them they do not enter my house. I do not even open the door. The day will come when I do ask but right now I have not. I am not digging at you so please do not take offense.

The Annoyed Man wrote:2) If your "sheep" comment was directed at me, then take it and put it where the sun doesn't shine. It is idiotic to think I am a "sheep" because I want to protect the inside of my home from potential wolves. It makes no sense at all. You want to call me names, now that is offensive. But since you don't think I ought to be offended by that, then I'm sure you won't be offended if I tell you "up yours, pal."

I was not referring to you when I mentioned sheeple. I was talking in generalities. I do think too much is made about being "offended". When a term is used to excess it loses it's meaning and right now when I hear someone say they are offended Ithink "Who cares?"

I will try and more clearly explain my thoughts.

I like to be armed wherever I go, even onto private property. When I think of private property I am referring to an individuals residence. I make a distinction when it come to business property. My posts on this are out there for you to read. Right now I am talking about your house and my house, TAM.

I have invited packers to my house. Packers freely come and go at my invite, some just drop in. I never ask them to disarm. Why would I? I have stated that I welcome them and respect their RKBA. I would be willing to bet that I have had people in my house who packed and I did not know it. Don't ask, don't tell. Keep it concealed. Treat me the way I want to be treated.

I have gone into people's homes armed. They neither gave their consent nor asked. If someone asks I and demands that I disarm then if they are low on my priority scale I will just leave. People who know me trust me. One of my most cherished areas of my life is my reputation. If my work appraisal where my ethics and trust is rated ever changed from where it is now I would be floored. That is me, who I am.

Why would people not trust me with a tool?

Anygunanywhere

shootthesheet wrote:I never even considered that a CHL holder carrying into someone’s house or business would offend someone so much. Especially not another CHL holder.

Great point.

I have never asked someone if they are packing. Gun toters are welcome in my home. You see, I accept the RKBA. If someone wants to carry their AR in and hang it on the hook, fine with me. I know my rights and responsibilities as a property owner, and if I invite someone in, I expect them to be part of the common defence. This is in-line with what I expect from a business that invites me in.

I do not expect to be treated any different than the way I treat others.

If my job was working in other people's homes, you bet your bippy I am packing. You invite me to your home, I am packing. If you ask me not to I want to know why you invited me.

I really do not understand why people are so offended by firearms. I guess it is because most sheep are brought up to be easily offended. Last time I read the constitution there was not anything in there that said you had the right to not be offended.

Anygun

If you choose to not spend your money at 30.06 posted businesses that are not compliant, I certainly ope you folks apply the same logic to every gunbuster sign you see because essentially it is the same. The ones who attempt a 30.06 sign are just slightly better at it.

Anygun

Marvelous post idea LEdjedi. My compliments.

I respect private property rights. Some of my posts on the subject may not sound like it but I do.

If a private property owner posts his property to prevent patrons from packing, the property owner should take whatever measures necessary to ensure that the invited patrons are as protected as they would be if they were packing.

If I invite you into my home (business), your firearms are welcome. I rely (expect) you to contribute to our common defense. Why would I deny (weaken my defense capability) by denyiing you your firearm?

Anygun