If you really want capacity Keltec has the PMR-30, two spare magazines and one in the pipe would have you carrying 91 rounds of ammo... Somehow I doubt that you would carry a .22mag due to a number of reasons such as reliability of ammo, and the overall effectiveness (even though it could be argued that .22LR has killed more people than 9mm and .45 auto combined).Soap wrote:G.A. Heath wrote:Ooooo, Caliber wars!Soap wrote:So your source said 45 seems to perform slightly better? Maybe it is so. Did he also tell you how many times his officers MISS when they're in these "gun fights"? If they perform with littler difference I would rather have a higher capacity. Statistically officers miss more than civilians but that is due to the type of engagements we come across. A civies is usually different than an Officers. No one wants to reload while being shot at and its not realistic for civilians. You also do want to DUCK. This SWAT says don't duck? I'm sure he has a plate carrier on. Get off the X. I would rather have capacity on my side, or my rifle.
I will admit that I tend to carry single stack pistols, mostly because I shoot the platform better or it conceals better depending on my particular situation at the time. I Carry a 9mm as much as I carry a 45, and I carry a 10mm almost as much as I carry a 9mm. I can see folks making one claim or another but in the end it's a personal choice.
As for the don't duck vs duck/spray and pray, it's a matter of training and experience. Col. Jeff Cooper would gladly support the stand and deliver Approach, and he would add you should fight your way to the threat in order to ensure it was eliminated. Many folks base their tactics on TV and Movies, but in real life car doors do not stop bullets very often (if ever) and what most people think of as cover is nothing more than concealment. I have talked to those who have been in real gun fights, I hate to say it but gun fights are not nice orderly events where people take turns popping up from cover and shooting in the general direction of their opponent. If your target is untrained and thinks this is the way to fight and your waiting for him to pop up from behind his cover/concealment you will end the gun fight before he can aim and put one where it counts.
I don't care what caliber you use. I just want capacity. I already carry just about a full size heavy gun. If I decided to carry a 45 I'd want more capcity. I might go crazy and even carry the FNX45 tactical.
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Ooooo, Caliber wars!Soap wrote:So your source said 45 seems to perform slightly better? Maybe it is so. Did he also tell you how many times his officers MISS when they're in these "gun fights"? If they perform with littler difference I would rather have a higher capacity. Statistically officers miss more than civilians but that is due to the type of engagements we come across. A civies is usually different than an Officers. No one wants to reload while being shot at and its not realistic for civilians. You also do want to DUCK. This SWAT says don't duck? I'm sure he has a plate carrier on. Get off the X. I would rather have capacity on my side, or my rifle.
I will admit that I tend to carry single stack pistols, mostly because I shoot the platform better or it conceals better depending on my particular situation at the time. I Carry a 9mm as much as I carry a 45, and I carry a 10mm almost as much as I carry a 9mm. I can see folks making one claim or another but in the end it's a personal choice.
As for the don't duck vs duck/spray and pray, it's a matter of training and experience. Col. Jeff Cooper would gladly support the stand and deliver Approach, and he would add you should fight your way to the threat in order to ensure it was eliminated. Many folks base their tactics on TV and Movies, but in real life car doors do not stop bullets very often (if ever) and what most people think of as cover is nothing more than concealment. I have talked to those who have been in real gun fights, I hate to say it but gun fights are not nice orderly events where people take turns popping up from cover and shooting in the general direction of their opponent. If your target is untrained and thinks this is the way to fight and your waiting for him to pop up from behind his cover/concealment you will end the gun fight before he can aim and put one where it counts.