This is a key point Branca makes in his videos claiming the dismissal w/ prejudice was wrong. The only avenue that the evidence would apply is if it could be used for impeachment of a witness.puma guy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:49 am I'm not a lawyer so forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what relevance would the ammo have since Baldwin wasn't charged with bringing live rounds or any type of cartridges to the set. He pointed a revolver at a person and pulled the trigger, mishandling the weapon and violating the first rule of gun safety.
I have a theory based on Baldwin's violent nature. He could have been upset with people or progress and pointed the gun out of frustration/anger/disapproval and to show it did what he did.
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- Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:50 am
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- Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:06 pm
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I didn't see this myself, but according to Adam Baldwin (No relation to Alec Baldwin) the Judge stated she was not only a fan of the defendants movies but a fan of his politics and even smiled at someone associated with Baldwin after the dismissal. This statement was on Andrew Branca's zoom session that is still ongoing as I post this.
- Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:07 pm
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Andrew Branca also has an article about the potentially illegal dismissal w/ prejudice. But this might be a difficult appeal for Reed as her legal team knew about some, possibly all, of the evidence. The bullets handed over to the police were requested from the man who handed them over to the police during the trial by her defense team who then told the the man that they were not going to use the bullets or him as a witness. He then surrendered the bullets to the Santa Fe Sheriff's Office.Grayling813 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:51 pm I’m reading that this prosecution misconduct may open the door to Hannah Gutierrez Reed’s conviction being overturned because the same evidence was withheld at her trial.
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:11 pm
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Re: NM: Prop gun in Alec Baldwin movie kills one injures one
While I personally lean towards 100% incompetence myself this is a rare situation where both Occam's razor and Hanlon's razor might apply. I just want to make it clear that malice on the part of a third party is a possible factor in this tragedy.
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:32 pm
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Considering that there was a reported "Strike" by some of the union crew over reported safety concerns I wouldn't be surprised if the live round wasn't a "lesson" to the cast and crew by those who walked off the set and/or were on strike.
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:03 pm
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Re: NM: Prop gun in Alec Baldwin movie kills one injures one
This actually happened in New Mexico, and as for the comparison to the John Wick movies. If you are firing blanks it's pretty easy to look down the front of the magazine. And I strongly suspect the John Wick movies do not use ammo for practical effects, most likely they use special effects since between the cost of Keanu and ammo they would go over budget pretty quick!Ruark wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:57 pm I'd like to know the bottom line. HOW that live bullet got in there in the first place. Who, exactly, put it in there? Were all 6 bullets live, or just that one? Maybe a disgruntled employee is in the picture - 7 people walked off the set that morning. If all 6 bullets were live, fingerprints should be on them. SURELY the investigators checked everything for prints....?
Where did the ammo come from, anyway? Not many people have a supply of .45 Long Colt sitting around. And remember this is in California, where you do a background check to buy ammo.
As far as Baldwin checking the gun, that sort of makes sense, but at the same time, making a movie like this may involve many retakes of various scenes, or many scenes involving a gun. Is the actor expected to empty the gun and examine the ammo EVERY SINGLE time it's used in a scene? Look at the John Wick movies; is Keanu supposed to work all the bullets out of that semi-auto magazine, check the ammo, and reload it, every time he fires it? I doubt it. If he did, he'd spend all day unloading/reloading magazines.
But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, seems like there's an awful lot of unanswered questions in this situation.