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by corbmonster
Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: should we report a place to TABC?
Replies: 46
Views: 7336

Re: should we report a place to TABC?

I emailed the "administrator" by the email address provided on sherwood forest website. I asked if they were owned by anyone. She said no, and was a partner with a guy named George. And I asked (politely) well, I'll just copy and paste :
"I was curious about the 51% sign you guys have. I was curious why? I mean, I figured you would make more $ on tickets than anything. And I figured you wouldn't sell the alcohol, but instead have vendors that do. And even if you did sell the booze yourself, why try to 51% the whole grounds? As I understood it 51% was to be for a premises, and by premises in TX penal code 46.035 is defined as, a building or a portion of a building. (for instance you can't 51% a square city block in Houston). And, I totally understand posting that where they sell alcohol. But surely there is so much more there than drinking. I like a good beer as much as the next guy, but I really just want to have fun with my girlfriend. Personally it feels disenfranchising, almost discriminating to be told you can't come in here. And if I may (because you really can't convey tone in text very well), this isn't meant to be rude in any way, or trying to start an argument, or anything like that. Just a conversation, and questions.

Thank you
And the reply:
I know nothing bout the liquor. Its an independent vendor. Renaissance Beverage Co.
I mentioned that I could not find an email for them and asked if I could have one to talk to them, but I have not received a reply. I think that they just get a packet in the mail and hammer up signs and don't know any better. Not that that is a valid excuse. It isn't. But I'd like to talk with them first before the TABC.
by corbmonster
Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: should we report a place to TABC?
Replies: 46
Views: 7336

Re: should we report a place to TABC?

Thanks again everyone for educating me. It still seems crazy that an open area could have a 51% sign. It almost sounds like a good legal argument of being able to walk around the area while carrying, and not being by the vendors that sell booze. Not that I'm advocating trying it out. I'm not. Who want to deal with that hassle?
by corbmonster
Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:44 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: should we report a place to TABC?
Replies: 46
Views: 7336

Re: should we report a place to TABC?

Clearly, I don't understand how the legality of this works. And thanks to everyone for being patient and educating me. Why would the TABC force them to display the signs? As far as red signs of not, I'm going off eyewitnesses saying the signs are not red. I could see the argument for the grounds, if they were the only retailer there, but they are'nt. There are multiple vendors selling many different things and because a couple vendors happen to sell alcohol, the "whole facility" is labeled as 51%?!? Shouldn't the vendors selling alcohol have the signs for their locations?
by corbmonster
Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:16 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: should we report a place to TABC?
Replies: 46
Views: 7336

Re: should we report a place to TABC?

Is the TABC the issuing authority for the 51% sign? Or should I be notifying anyone else?
by corbmonster
Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: should we report a place to TABC?
Replies: 46
Views: 7336

Re: should we report a place to TABC?

Well it's the principle that they are trying to disenfranchise and shut out perfectly fine law abiding citizens. That's what bothers me.
by corbmonster
Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: should we report a place to TABC?
Replies: 46
Views: 7336

Re: should we report a place to TABC?

If you look up the license it says the exp date is 2/18/2014. And it is pending renewal.
by corbmonster
Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: should we report a place to TABC?
Replies: 46
Views: 7336

should we report a place to TABC?

Sherwood Forrest in McDade has 51% signs by the entrance. 1) They are expired. 2) They are black, not red. 3) Sherwood forest is not a building at all, but open grounds (I've been told that 51% only applies to a (1) building, not an open area). 4) If you look up the license on TABC it doesn't say sherwood forest is the owner. It says the owner is "RENAISSANCE BEVERAGE COMPANY LLC". If you Google who that is, it is a beverage import / export llc. based out of Florida, and does not have a TX office according to the web site. Something does not add up here. I've looked all over the Sherwood Forrest web site and don't see any reference to ren fair bev co. So, should they be reported?

TABC Liscense: BG742408
TABC Liscence search page: http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/PublicInquiry/Status.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ren. bev. co. website: http://renaissancebeverage.com/1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sherwood forest website: http://www.sherwoodforestfaire.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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