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by gugisman
Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:00 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
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Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

If 30-40 people would have shown up to testify, and if a couple hundred would have made calls and sent emails... Then the godless democrats on the committee wouldn't have been so cocky and self righteous... Yes, I'm letting my true feelings show... Deal with it!

At least for now, perhaps someone could work on drafting an amendment to TX OC 1702.322 Non-Applicability to include a new section (just as in TX PC 46.15 (a)(5)) to read: "an honorably retired peace officer or federal criminal investigator who holds a certificate of proficiency issued under section 1701.357, occupations code, and is carrying a photo identification that: (A) verifies that the officer honorably retired after not less than 15 years of service as a commissioned officer; and (B) is issued by a state or local law enforcement agency;

This would immediately fix the problem for retired LEO's who wish to serve on church security teams, who are I imagine, the majority of the potential volunteer pool.

It's ridiculous that the security industry has subverted the intent of TX PC 46.15, by the enactment of regulation under TX OC 1702, that prohibits groups from participating on church security teams, (except theirs of course), which was otherwise not prohibited under 46.15.

Additionally, as you read through TX PC 46.15, the legislature was not nearly as lenient with security officers as with retired LEO's. This really smacks of 'payback' by the security groups, doesn't it?
by gugisman
Sun May 24, 2015 9:52 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Not enough interest apparently...
by gugisman
Thu May 07, 2015 7:58 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Please contact Todd Hunter to schedule HB 1561 for a full floor vote. It has been moved out of committee, as substituted. My email to Rep. Hunter:

Todd...

I am writing to encourage you to not overlook HB 1561, as amended/substituted, that lifts the ridiculous restriction on churches to provide their own security teams.

Various bills that addressed this governmental overreach into churches never made it to the floor in previous sessions. This one merits your prayerful consideration and action.

I urge you to get this one paragraph bill to the floor, where I fully expect it will be swiftly, and bi-partisanly, passed.

Sincerely,

Eric Inman
Ponder, TX

(I have a copy of the substituted bill but don't know how to attach it. It took out any reference to other non- profits and schools.)
by gugisman
Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Yeah... so true. Just stay out of church affairs in this matter.
by gugisman
Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

There was no specific discussion in that regard. I do agree that that would be a decent outcome.
by gugisman
Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:34 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

The hearing went well... considering 4-5 security lobbyists fought hard to keep things status quo.

Three other guys testified in favor of the bill, but I neglected to get their names. One was retired TX State Trooper.

There was very little time for testimony. Here is what I highlighted:

-Security industry is turf protecting, which has resulted in governmental overreach into churches;
-Security industry is meddling into private affairs of religious organizations, bordering on affecting their freedom to (safely) worship;
-Many/most (potential) volunteers are retired LEO's from State, Local and Federal agencies;
-These potential volunteers have thousands of hours of training and 20+ years of real life LE experience... A security officer's certification requires about 50 hours of training;
-Retired LEO's are 'exempted' from TXPC 46.02/03 in 46.15; Security officers are for 46.02 but only a defense of prosecution for 46.03;

The bill may be tweaked (hopefully) to make it palletable to the democrats on the committee, which may lead to its passage out if committee...

This is a giidt time to call Matt Schaeffer's office, the sponsor of the bill, to offer support. It's definitely a good time to call or email the Homeland Security committee to encourage them to vote in favor of passing the bill.

E. Inman, Ponder, TX
by gugisman
Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:58 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

My communication this morning to Judd Quarles, Chief of Staff, Office of Rep. Matt Schaefer- House District 6, Capitol Office: E2.510, 512-463-0584:
_______________________________________

Good morning,

I see HB 1561 is scheduled for public comment on Tues. April 21. Would you please confirm that it will take place? I have some other obligations that day that I will cancel if the hearing takes place.

In addition to the passage of HB 1561 that addresses concealed handgun licensecees engaging in/on church security teams...

I would like to propose an amendment to modify TX OC 1702.322 (non-applicability chapter) to include (new) sections 5 - 9:

"(5) an honorably retired peace officer, qualified retired law enforcement officer, federal criminal investigator, or former reserve law enforcement officer who holds a certificate of proficiency issued under Section 1701.357, Occupations Code, and is carrying a photo identification that is issued by a federal, state, or local law enforcement agency, as applicable, and that verifies that the officer is:
(A) an honorably retired peace officer;
(B) a qualified retired law enforcement officer;
(C) a federal criminal investigator; or
(D) a former reserve law enforcement officer who has served in that capacity not less than a total of 15 years with one or more state or local law enforcement agencies;
(6) a district attorney, criminal district attorney, county attorney, or municipal attorney who is licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;
(7) an assistant district attorney, assistant criminal district attorney, or assistant county attorney who is licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;
(8) a bailiff designated by an active judicial officer as defined by Section 411.201, Government Code, who is:
(A) licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(B) engaged in escorting the judicial officer; or
(9) a juvenile probation officer who is authorized to carry a firearm under Section 142.006, Human Resources Code."

The above is a direct copy of PC sec 46.15 that exempts these individuals from PC Sections 46.02 "unlawful carrying of weapons" and 46.03 "places weapons prohibited".

[Pease note that PC 46.15 also includes sections (b)(4-6), that specifically address security officers, and only exempts them from PC 46.02 "unlawful carrying of weapons ".

Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that, OC 1702.322 can only exempt others from its regulatory authority regarding PC 46.02, and cannot prohibit those exempted from PC 46.03 "places weapons prohibited" under PC 46.15.]

I think that there was an legislative oversight when drafting & approving OC 1702 & 1702.322.

Adding sections 5-9 under OC 1702.322 will clear up that oversight.

Thank you for your consideration in this matter,

Eric Inman
Ponder, TX
by gugisman
Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Public Hearing has been scheduled for Tuesday April 21. I plan to attend to testify.

See: http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... ill=HB1561" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by gugisman
Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Thanks for all you do Chas. I'll work hard to get this bill passed...
by gugisman
Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Great commentary, thank you for paying attention. Until laws or regulations are challenged, they can be interpreted by me or anyone else... I interpret my authority under 46.15 to mean 1702 would not apply, since 1702 is subservient to chapter 46. I could tell you my background but that does not matter. Your opinion is no less valid than mine. Now let's work together and fix this by supporting Matt Schaefers bill.
by gugisman
Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

HR1561 Referred to committee today! See below:

FYI

We will be requesting a hearing immediately, so I will keep you posted.

Judd Quarles
Chief of Staff
Office of Rep. Matt Schaefer- House District 6
Capitol Office: E2.510
512-463-0584

District Office
202 E. Ferguson St., #506
Tyler, TX 75702
903-592-0900

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by gugisman
Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:47 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

TX PC section 46.15 (a) "Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
(1-4)...
(5) Honorably retired state, local peace officer and federal criminal investigators...

These nonapplicability sections exempt any of the persons listed from the criminal statutes for carrying a weapon. By direct association, the persons are thus exempted from Gov. Code section 1702 related to security officers.
by gugisman
Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:34 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

HB1561 filed 2/18/15 by Schaefer. It is clean and simple.
by gugisman
Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:44 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Please provide the bill number/s so I can track the progress. Are they the same #'s as last session?
by gugisman
Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Volunteer Security Groups
Replies: 224
Views: 51715

Re: Church Volunteer Security Groups

Thank you,

I will travel to Austin to personally visit legislators... I just need some details.

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