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TVGuy wrote:

Javier730 wrote:

ShootDontTalk wrote:Nothing personal here but.....I always find it fascinating when people who have zero actual experience with something pontificate based solely on what they read on that bastion of truth, the Internet. I dare say 15 minutes searching will turn up lots of negative comments on almost everything ever made. Most people who have been around guns for a while know that every major manufacturer has problems now and then. Some use customers for their QA. Tell me I'm mistaken.

In my nearly 6 decades of shooting I have owned, or shot, almost everything ever made. I've had good and bad. I have owned and shot two PF-9's for over 10 years - each. I haven't experienced any of the maladies spoken of here. I have several thousand rounds through one and around 1000 through the other. Never a problem of any kind. Period. Have some had problems with theirs? I'm sure. Show me a brand that no one has ever not had a problem with.

Would I compare a PF-9 to my finest 1911, Glock, Sig, or other gun that costs 2 to 10 times more? No. Is there a reason I wouldn't trust my life to my PF9's? No, because I have in the past. It always goes bang when I pull the trigger. I usually carry one as a backup, but not because it is not capable. Bottom line. The PF-9 is perfectly serviceable for its intended purpose and, at $250, is one of the great bargains of the gun world.

If you buy one, go shoot lots of rounds through it and make sure it works. If you have a problem, send it back. Kel-Tec is a stand up company. Just don't openly carry it to BBQ's.

I suspect some may get all bunched up over this. That's okay. I've spent a little over 25 years with two PF-9's. I know a little bit about them.

I don't think there are negative comments being made. All that being mentioned its that for a little more money, he can get a better quality firearm.

I'll admit my comments were negative, it's nothing personal. He asked for opinions on a Kel Tec P9 and he's received plenty. What the OP does with the comments is completely up to them.

If my wife or other family member bought a P9 with the intent of it being all that stood between them and a really bad situation I'd strongly admonish them. I wouldn't do so to anyone on this board, but will give an opinion about a firearm if someone asks.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

TVGuy wrote:

2farnorth wrote:I have carried a PF9 since about 2011. Initially had problems with WWB and SB ammo. All others worked great. Last year I noticed a small crack starting on the slide and sent it back to KelTec. They replaced the entire gun and the replacement has been outstanding. No FTE's or any other "jams". The quality of the bluing is much better also. Overall, I'd buy another if I had the need.
I quit the KTOG board so I haven't kept up with what's going on with KT's products now

See, here's the problem.

First of all, if a gun doesn't like one brand of ammo that's one thing. If you start striking out various makes, that's a problem.

More importantly, a slide should not crack, especially after two years. Of course they sent you a new one. It was defective and if they didn't and you continued to use it and blew your hand off you would have a serious liability suit against them. They make them so cheaply that they can still fully replace guns and turn a profit.

THIS ^^

And the thing is, with a pocket carried gun, even with a pocket holster, that gun is going to get nasty pretty quickly. Lint, sweat, dirt, you name it.....whatever gets into your pocket gets into your gun. Me? I'm not ashamed to say that during the summer months I'm a big time baby powder guy. If you've got anything like that on your body, it's going to get on your gun - even in a belt holster - along with any other dust and schmutz. So, a stainless steel slide is important to me, and all of the various pistols I carry either have stainless slides and polymer frames, or are manufactured of a non-ferrous metal.

• XDM-45 Compact 3.8 - stainless slide & barrel, polymer frame
• XDS-45 3.3 - stainless slide & barrel, polymer frame
• PM9 - "black diamond" coated stainless slide, polymer frame (BTW, mine is the "black with night sights version, MSRP $987)
• M&P45 Full Size - melonite coated stainless slide, polymer frame
• M&P340 .357 - scandium frame, melonite coated stainless steel cylinder

Type of metal and coatings are something you will want to consider in purchasing a pocketable pistol.

And by the way, the Glock site is back up, and here are the specs on the Glock 43:
http://us.glock.com/products/model/g43
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9x19 / Safe Action
Dimensions
LENGTH:
159 mm / 6.26 in.
WIDTH:
26 mm / 1.02 in.
LENGTH BETWEEN SIGHTS:
132 mm / 5.20 in
HEIGHT:
108 mm / 4.25 in.
BARREL HEIGHT:
n/a
BARREL LENGTH:
86 mm / 3.39 in.

Weights
UNLOADED:
509 g / 17.95 oz.
LOADED:
634 g / 22.36 oz.
Trigger Pull / Travel
TRIGGER PULL:
~2.5 kg / ~5.5 lbs.
TRIGGER TRAVEL:
~12.5 mm / ~0.49 in.
Barrel Rifling / Length of Twist
BARREL RIFLING:
right hand, hexagonal
LENGTH OF TWIST:
250 mm / 9.84 in.
Magazine Capacity:
STANDARD: 6
MSRP: $529

If I didn't already own a pocketable 9mm, I would give that Glock a long hard look.