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by ralewis
Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:05 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: PA CHL is a bit primative
Replies: 19
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Re: PA CHL is a bit primative

shootthesheet wrote:The last two posters missed the point. My post was about a gap in time between when the license was wrongly suspended and the time I was notified.
With all due respect, I don't think I missed the point at all....My point was how it would look to be carrying on a non-res license if you TX license was suspended? I also stated that your PA LTC is based on your TX CHL, so that would remove the pre-requisite for having the PA LTC (not saying that PA would revoke it -- I have no idea if they would).

I'm guessing you would be cited for UCW if the officer determined you were carrying if you had a suspended TX CHL in TX. I also think you are being a bit paranoid for carrying a spare license to plan for the (unlikely) eventuality that your license would be suspended and you not know it (whether it was justifiably suspended or not). There are very few cases where your license would be suspended and you wouldn't know it it IMO.

Pease...Not trying to be argumentative here. I just don't see the how carrying a PA LTC gets you much in TX.
by ralewis
Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:55 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: PA CHL is a bit primative
Replies: 19
Views: 2460

Re: PA CHL is a bit primative

shootthesheet wrote:I agree the PA LTC is better in most ways. The problem PA has is that a few of their cities are trying to make laws outside of the preemption laws and the state is having a time fighting it. Cities may not make laws stricter than state law in PA but that doesn't mean a license holder won't get slammed in these urban areas as I understand things.

I copied my LTC and made it smaller then laminated it to make it easer to carry. I keep the original as is and leave it in the safe for back up. I do that because it is possible that TDPS can suspend a CHL for a mistake and time pass without us knowing. In the rare chance that would happen and I have to shoot I would still be covered under the PA LTC. I just have to try to remember to tell the LEO I have a PA LTC too and put that in my statement. Who knows if I would or if I could just make the fact known later if they went after me because of a problem with my CHL that I didn't know about. I checked the PA law and it was OKAY to modify the license to be able to carry it more easily. Don't take my word without checking for yourself if you plan on doing this. I don't think a copy of the Utah or Florida CCW is legal so that is another consideration. If we get a wallet stolen then we are in a hard place. I also have a TX ID Card I keep in the safe so I will have an ID to present with the PA license if I get robbed or whatever. National Right to Carry being enacted won't change me wanting a PA LTC because of these reasons
Something seems wrong with having your license suspended in TX but being able to carry on a non-resident license. I wonder how that would be received by the cop you explained that to. Also, the basis for your PA LTC was your TX CHL correct? That was my understanding with the Center County Sheriff. You send him a copy of the license with a photo and they send you a PA non-res back? If this is the way it works, does that mean your PA LTC is invalidated because the basis for it has been revoked/suspended?
by ralewis
Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:06 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: PA CHL is a bit primative
Replies: 19
Views: 2460

Re: PA CHL is a bit primative

I'm from PA and have carried there when travelling from TX with my Texas CHL, so I know a little bit about what the LTC (license to carry) means. My dad and uncle have licenses there, and it's pathetically easy to get one. No course or test. Just a form to fill out.

It's not illegal to open carry. The LTC covers you for both open and concealed -- I think it's specifically illegal to open carry without a LTC in Philadelphia/Pittsburg.

Overall, PA is an exceptionally cool state with regard to carry -- i've carried in CO, PA, NC, MO, Ok, FL, and TX and PA seems to have the least unfriendly gun laws of all of them. Shockingly, souch a north eastern state has few gun laws. No prohibition on carrying in a bar or sporting event. Court houses are required (I believe) to have lock boxes for firearms and you check them like a hat if you go there. No provision for an enforceable sign posting like we have in TX.

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