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by cb1000rider
Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:58 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CHLer Arrested
Replies: 98
Views: 10934

Re: CHLer Arrested

03Lightningrocks wrote: If a guy punches you and runs, he is no longer a threat. At this point you are no longer shooting in self defense.
Ahh, but if he punches you, takes your phone, and starts running, wouldn't you say that's an in-progress robbery? Isn't that justified in Texas?
I'm not engaging in legal "trickery" - I'm legitimately asking the question.

To me, where he chose to fire was just a very bad decision.
by cb1000rider
Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:25 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CHLer Arrested
Replies: 98
Views: 10934

Re: CHLer Arrested

Keith B wrote: I do see this incident and the NY one a little differently. In this case the guy was not in danger of his life, he was just trying to stop the guy from taking something he had been trying to get rid of anyway (sell it.) The shooter in this case was not in fear for his life or of serious bodily injury.

In the NY incident, the LEO's were shooting at a perceived threat and were in fear for their life or serious bodily injury. They fired, but missed and hit bystanders. The guy who was the threat was charged with their injury. Had the guy been running away and they just started flinging lead at him, then the tables may have turned on the officers.
I agree they are different, but aren't both "causes" - fear of bodily injury and stopping robbery justified causes for the use of deadly force in Texas?

As I read the law, during the day, deadly force can be used to prevent robbery. I'm not sure if fleeing with the phone is preventing the robbery or post-robbery.

Just to be clear, I'm not OK with the choice to shoot at Walmart over a phone, but I'd like to discuss it anyway.
by cb1000rider
Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:22 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CHLer Arrested
Replies: 98
Views: 10934

Re: CHLer Arrested

jbarn wrote: What do you mean by getting a pass? Did NYPD shoot at a person fleeing with property?
They shot at someone acting irrationally who reached into his pants and didn't follow orders.
The police missed the irrational guy, but hit two women who were uninvolved.
The DA charged the irrational guy with causing injury to the two women...

Ref: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyreg ... .html?_r=0
by cb1000rider
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:42 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CHLer Arrested
Replies: 98
Views: 10934

Re: CHLer Arrested

jmra wrote: Because life isn't fair?
Still trying to work that one out on LEO vs Public.
by cb1000rider
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:08 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: CHLer Arrested
Replies: 98
Views: 10934

Re: CHLer Arrested

The Annoyed Man wrote:One more reason to avoid buying off of Craigslist.
You mean one more reason not to engage in private party sales all together?
It was a CL sale in a public place. Sounds reasonable to me. I've bought boats, cars, and a bunch of other items from private parties that I didn't know with cash. How is this any different? (Maybe I'm just an idiot)

Wasn't it NY where the PD fired at someone and hit bystanders? I'm not saying that you shouldn't take your backdrop into consideration, but no one was hurt here, why does the PD get a pass and this guy goes to jail?

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