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by cb1000rider
Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:25 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York)
Replies: 158
Views: 25809

Re: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York

There is enforcement in Dallas county, but it can get pretty sparse. We're talking about motorcycles that can hit 60 mph in under 2 seconds and have top speeds (even limited) approaching 180mph. You cannot catch them in a patrol car short of an accident or deploying enough resources to do a road block if they decide they don't want to stop. I think the enforcement may be a bit more selective due to pursuit policy and public risk, but I'm just guessing... They're most likely going to kill themselves.

Speeding is a different ball of wax than actively assaulting a vehicle when you've got a big numbers advantage and you're not being threatened.
by cb1000rider
Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York)
Replies: 158
Views: 25809

Re: Disparity of force (Motorcycle Gang Incident in New York

AlaskanInTexas wrote: Based on my personal experience, the bad element is closer to 75%, not 1%. That said, my experience as of late has been pretty much limited to driving 75 in Dallas after 9pm - not necessarily a good sample. This is not a gut reaction either. I was involved in the rather heated motorcycle post several months back, and since then have been keeping track in my head of the number of safe v. crazy bikers I encounter.
As a biker, I'm sorry that you've had that experience. I've found bikers as a whole to be pretty gregarious and nice guys that can look a bit intimidating. Of course, that's usually meeting them as a biker.

That "gang" that was riding sport bikes - and hey, I rode sportbikes for years.. But running Go-Pro cameras, passengers with marginal (if any) safety gear, and they're definitely out there to show off in traffic - these aren't the guys that I'm talking about. I think they're something different than lifetime motorcycle riders.

It's dangerous being on a motorcycle. And without exception someone in a "cage" (enclosed vehicle) will eventually endanger you. Most of the time it's due to being non-situationally aware. Those incidents carry a high risk of personal injury. I know that I've gotten hot headed at least once in my past and reacted badly. However, a swarm of 30+ bikes breaking all sorts of traffic laws is a different beast... They were doing the harassing taking up that many lanes in that traffic pattern. There is no excuse for that behavior and they certainly weren't riding defensively.

75% being bad? No way.

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