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by cb1000rider
Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:36 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Moral vs Ethical carry on 30.06
Replies: 47
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Re: Moral vs Ethical carry on 30.06

RottenApple wrote: To the OP: Frankly, I disagree. We don't know why the owner/manager chose to put up a "no gun" sign. Perhaps their insurance required it, perhaps they just want to make their gun-fearing clientele feel safer, perhaps they trebly want to ban guns from their store and are too incompetent/lazy to look up the legal requirements to do so. Do you know why? I certainly don't. The ONLY way to know for sure, with 100% certainty, that the owner/manager does not want (for whatever reason) concealed handguns in their establishment is for them to post a correct and valid 30.06 sign.
I agree with your thoughts about why. I don't agree that it justifies ignoring the signs. Why not?

If insurance required it:
The owner can lose his/her insurance if the rules aren't being followed. Sure, it doesn't mean that ownership agrees, but you're not going to get an owner that says you can ignore the requirements of his insurer...

If they want to make gun-fearing clientele feel safer:
Then the owner doesn't want your gun there. Period. As much as you'd like people to respect your right to bear arms, maybe we should respect the desires of private property owners?

too incompetent/lazy to look up the legal requirements:
I think this is most likely. Again, to me it screams "intent" - and although it doesn't follow the letter of the law, it's not my business and I'd want people to respect my rules if I was the business owner.


I own German Shepherds. The only difference is that there isn't a specific signage requirement for keeping my dogs out of your place of business. For instance, I know of several campgrounds that ban German Shepherds and post those rules. I know of a specific campground where they ban German Shepherd's not because they don't like or don't trust the breed, but because it's a requirement of their insurer to do so. In that case, I know the owner has no issue personally, but I don't want to put his insurance at risk... And if you're found with a Shepherd, you will be asked to leave - those are the posted rules... The "why" of the rules doesn't matter. Why not respect the intent of property owners?

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