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by Cedar Park Dad
Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:42 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?
Replies: 83
Views: 10174

Re: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?

mojo84 wrote:Apparently, you and those that passed have sufficient skill. They aren't wanting to make sure we are marksmen. The intent is to determine if we can handle the gun in a safe manner and shoot we enough to hit a human size target at close range.

The driving test does the same thing.

I have difficulty seeing how that test determined we can handle a gun in a safe manner very much though. In the two times I qualified there were some really scary "shooters." :eek6 :eek6 :eek6 :eek6
by Cedar Park Dad
Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:47 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?
Replies: 83
Views: 10174

Re: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?

ShootDontTalk wrote:I think Charles summed things up very nicely. I would like to respond to this on a personal, not legislative, basis. This is my personal definition of CHL proficiency.

1. Safety. I started shooting under my father's tutelage 57 years ago. He taught me diligently and forcefully about handling, loading, shooting, unloading, and storing all kinds of guns. He taught me the four safety rules and made sure I knew them and practiced them. He taught me hunting safety and lots of useful things. I would not have guns around me without knowing most of this. For me, this is bedrock stuff. I've tried to follow my father's lead in teaching my family. That keeps me sharp and you might say, keeps me scared of the consequences of my not teaching well.

2. Proficiency. I learned to shoot first from my father, from thousands of rounds shot in thousands of hours of NRA competition and practice in Bullseye, High Power, and other sanctioned events. I learned by participating in long range rifle matches. I maintain proficiency by practice and "mind" practice - I think you guys know what I'm talking about here. I hope I'll never stop learning.

3. CHL. I didn't expect the class to teach me either safety or proficiency any more than I expected to come away with a full understanding of Texas law. I welcomed the shooting portion of the class - not to prove I could handle a gun safely, or shoot proficiently to the class or instructor, but to myself. It may just be me, but I want to know that, God forbid, should the need ever arise I can protect myself, my family, or others to the best of my ability.

Maybe I didn't say it very well, but this is just me.
:iagree: good words there.
by Cedar Park Dad
Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:39 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?
Replies: 83
Views: 10174

Re: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?

Texas_Blaze wrote:
Gun ranges..public and plenty of other people around.
Having seen the many shenanigans at public ranges I can point to many people who should not be allowed anywhere near a firearm, or heavy machinery for that matter. :eek6 :leaving

Legally I'm fine with the standard as it is. Its ridiculously easy, and persons could retake the test if they failed it after class (in both I attended before the rules changed). It was sufficient to show that the testee knew (at least theoretically) which end to point away from your face. I would not want heavier legal requirements though other than state you have the right to carry, and now you have a duty to be proficient in that carry and use.

If we were changing things, personally I'd want more focus on conflict avoidance/management, and a few minutes on safe carry gear.

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