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canvasbck wrote:For a BUG division, we are actually considering making it a "deep concealment" division with IWB holsters.

I like that.

canvasbck wrote:

You can copy right infringe a match? You learn something every day. I'd proffer keep your normal rules for everything, but consider something like 1 additional mag/revolver load (vs. two) / # of target limitations, and distance limitations.

Anything that is written and used for commercial purposes (like a rulebook) carries copyright protection. (I'm not that smart, but I have an IP attorney). We are keeping the 2 additional mag limit. The total number of shots that can be required on a stage is 23 (1911s would only have 2 extra rounds for stages that have that many rounds). Longest shots are 35 yards with 70% at 15 yards or less. No limit on number of no shoots. Race gun division may have additional targets they are required to engage (heads painted red) with a distance of up to 50 yards and shot limit of 30/stage.

Sorry I was being specific to BUG matches and ideas on what to modify and keep.

How do your forearms categories work (sorry if this is on FB, I'm not on FB, although strangely a tribute fan site to my old wiener dog is)?
How do you keep street guns, race guns, and formula 1 race guns ( ) separate?

No problem, it's not on FB. We will have divisions, similar to what IDPA does. Categories are:
Factory Stock Pistol - with restrictions on modifications that reduce concealability or enhance performance.
Factory Modified pistol - with less restrictions on modifications but some restrictions that keep them out of the race category (simlar to ESP, but slightly more permissive)
Large Bore Pistol - for .40 and up with higher power factor. Also 8 shot .357 magnum and .45 revolvers can compete in this division if desired.
Race Pistol - no holster restrictions, optic sights allowed, compensators, ect.
Factory Stock Revolver - has modification restrictions speed loaders only, no moon clips.
Race Revolver - Up to 6.5" bbl, optics, compensators, 8 shot capacity, etc.[/quote]
I like these.

Edited for typos: I kin speel reel gud

you and me both.

canvasbck wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:Other than the sometimes cover rule and 2 mag limit, how is this different than USPSA?

Our local club about once a month will use USPSA but IDPA scoring. Normal IDPA players usually just play with their two mags like normal (I'll do it that way). This sounds an awful lot like that.

Yes cover should be optional when its over 90. Call it the "Texas" Rule .

EDIT: One thing IDPA does that I like are BUG matches. The rules are pretty good for those and they are quite enjoyable.
You might think about incorporating similar.

It will be similar to the hybrid matches that many IDPA clubs are putting on, with some notable differences. Being halfway in between the two sports, most IDPA shooters who have not shot it yet, but have gone over the rules say "It looks like USPSA". USPSA shooters in the same boat tend to say "It looks like IDPA"

At the test matches, shooters from both sports have really enjoyed the new format. It's not like their normal format, but not all the way to "the other" format either.

You're right, IDPA is onto a very good concept with their BUG matches. They have done a wonderful job developing a seperate match for BUGs. Quite frankly, I have had trouble coming up with a BUG match format that does not risk copyright infringement. We are working to develop a way to fairly integrate BUGs into a regular match, but we aren't there yet.

You can copy right infringe a match? You learn something every day. I'd proffer keep your normal rules for everything, but consider something like 1 additional mag/revolver load (vs. two) / # of target limitations, and distance limitations.

How do your forearms categories work (sorry if this is on FB, I'm not on FB, although strangely a tribute fan site to my old wiener dog is)?
How do you keep street guns, race guns, and formula 1 race guns ( ) separate?

Also in case it wasn't clear in my earlier post, I like the hybrid matches.

Other than the sometimes cover rule and 2 mag limit, how is this different than USPSA?

Our local club about once a month will use USPSA but IDPA scoring. Normal IDPA players usually just play with their two mags like normal (I'll do it that way). This sounds an awful lot like that.

Yes cover should be optional when its over 90. Call it the "Texas" Rule .

EDIT: One thing IDPA does that I like are BUG matches. The rules are pretty good for those and they are quite enjoyable.
You might think about incorporating similar.

jimlongley wrote:

canvasbck wrote:Reload whenever/however (you can reload on the move and dump a partial magazine). once a magazine is dumped on the ground for a reload, it is "out of play" and can't be picked up. A magazine that falls from a mag carrier can be picked up and used.

It's normally a real time consumer, but what is the rule about retaining a partial mag that does not hit the ground? Say I know that I want to transit this area with a full mag, can I change mags and retain the partial for later use (as long as it doesn't hit the ground)? What method must I use to retain the mag, can I carry it in my hand, mouth, ear, or must it go in a pocket or mag holder?

I do believe that would unfairly advantage the large eared.