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by Cedar Park Dad
Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:28 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops in?
Replies: 78
Views: 10905

Re: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops i

b322da wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Scott Farkus wrote:http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/co ... /12502695/
"A bunch of suits came in the room and cased the joint and frisked me and everybody and then everybody went nuts with their cameras and the president came in and shook everybody's hand," said Webb.
afaik, neither Franklin BBQ nor Magnolia Cafe are posted 30.06 or 51%. President pops in, Secret Service frisks you and finds your weapon. You have a valid CHL. What happens? I assume they take gun - do they give it back when he's gone? Under what authority could they take it? You're not on federal property or violating any laws, right? Is there some kind of "halo rule" that follows the president and creates a federal gun free zone around him?
They won't be frisking me without cause.
I think that forum readers are entitled to know what one should do to stop Secret Service agents from frisking them under the circumstances being considered here. I say this only in the interest of the welfare of those readers.

a. Draw a concealed handgun carried pursuant to their valid Texas CHL?
b. Physically resist them?
c. Evade them by fleeing from the immediate premises?
d. Complain vociferously, citing their "Constitutional rights," hoping the media most likely present make video and audio recordings?
e. Call their lawyer?
f. Or something else?

Meanwhile, as readers consider what their attitude and action might be, they might consider at least the following:

In 1971 Congress established criminal penalties for a person who “knowingly and willfully obstructs, resists, or interferes with an agent of the United States engaged in the performance” of the Secret Service's protection mission. 84 Stat. 1892. I would suppose their lawyer could argue to a federal judge that being frisked under the circumstances related here was an unreasonable search and/or seizure. In 1965 Congress authorized Secret Service agents to make arrests without warrants if a crime is committed in their presence. 79 Stat. 890.

Jim
Simple, tell them I was an illegal immigrant child (despite the beer belly and beard) from Guatamala who had just crossed the border and was looking for asylum and my permiso.
The President wouldn't get near me. :rolll

Otherwise "D" I'm not seeing where you're going here. I don't think anyone here has advocated violence in any manner.
It also should be noted this is a CHL state and this is legal. If the SS doesn't like it, fine but its not illegal. I have no need to be there and in this scenario you surprised me, not me you.
by Cedar Park Dad
Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:35 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops in?
Replies: 78
Views: 10905

Re: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops i

I don't know how offended I'd be by being asked to put it away or leave.. That's much less invasive than shutting down the roads that the president travels on. Or the No-fly zone that was present over airports surrounding austin...
That still happens. I know, I've been caught in it when he was in Houston on a fundraiser, shut the whole downtown down.

I can actually understand why they would want to search people there, if I have the option of not being there. :tiphat:

HOWEVER...i'd bet good money the won't let you leave, under the guise you might be alerting someone. But I'm talking out of my butt and thankfully have no experience at all.

Having worked at Sams when former Bush Sr. appeared twice they never did any of that nonsense. He just sort of...appeared with a bunch of people.
by Cedar Park Dad
Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops in?
Replies: 78
Views: 10905

Re: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops i

Keith B wrote:
Redneck_Buddha wrote:I'd be super peeved if I had stood in line for 3 hours with a bunch of hipsters only to be removed from the premises so a politician I can't stand can cut to the front of the line.

My understanding is that his order was around $600. He could have called than in and avoided the line!
There's your first mistake. Ain't nothing worth that type of wait unless it's a free gun or ammo!! :biggrinjester:
Keith has the way of it. I'm not waiting three hours for barbeque. When I lived in Cali maybe, but here - barbeque is plentiful and rich, its the Holy Land!
by Cedar Park Dad
Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:57 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops in?
Replies: 78
Views: 10905

Re: What happens if you're carrying and the president pops i

Scott Farkus wrote:http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/co ... /12502695/
"A bunch of suits came in the room and cased the joint and frisked me and everybody and then everybody went nuts with their cameras and the president came in and shook everybody's hand," said Webb.
afaik, neither Franklin BBQ nor Magnolia Cafe are posted 30.06 or 51%. President pops in, Secret Service frisks you and finds your weapon. You have a valid CHL. What happens? I assume they take gun - do they give it back when he's gone? Under what authority could they take it? You're not on federal property or violating any laws, right? Is there some kind of "halo rule" that follows the president and creates a federal gun free zone around him?
They won't be frisking me without cause.

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