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E.Marquez wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

E.Marquez wrote:Ok for those that oppose the officer gaining access in any way to the car..... opposed to placing the gun on the ground.. opposed to placing the gun on a painted surface.. and state.. "well he took it away, he can figure out how to return it.

What is your suggested method of returning it?

The law is what it is, legal for the officer to disarm you for his perceived need of safety..so please for this discussion, leave out a personal disagreement with what the established is. For this discussion, related to the original post... the weapon is lawfully removed...

So hand back the gun after the officer has completed the reason for the contact? Do that and someone will say.. See... if he is willing to do that he was never really concerned for his safety and never should have disarmed.

Put it on the ground?

Put it on the vehicle?

What would you do? how would you return the deadly weapon to the citizen after writing them a citation for 11 MPH over, or expired reg, or an equipment violation?

How about just hand it back?

Nope... if he was willing to hand it back,, why did he disarm?

I'll answer my own question...

I suppose the unknown might drive the desire to disarm, but after contact, running for wants and warrants, finding valid DL, insurance and reg... and decent attitude about being cited for speeding (or what ever)... the safety concern might be no longer a personal concern.. so handing back the weapon would be reasonable. ....just not likely from an officer that felt the need to disarm from the get go.

E.Marquez wrote:Ok for those that oppose the officer gaining access in any way to the car..... opposed to placing the gun on the ground.. opposed to placing the gun on a painted surface.. and state.. "well he took it away, he can figure out how to return it.

What is your suggested method of returning it?

The law is what it is, legal for the officer to disarm you for his perceived need of safety..so please for this discussion, leave out a personal disagreement with what the established is. For this discussion, related to the original post... the weapon is lawfully removed...

So hand back the gun after the officer has completed the reason for the contact? Do that and someone will say.. See... if he is willing to do that he was never really concerned for his safety and never should have disarmed.

Put it on the ground?

Put it on the vehicle?

What would you do? how would you return the deadly weapon to the citizen after writing them a citation for 11 MPH over, or expired reg, or an equipment violation?

Shoot_First wrote:On a traffic stop I provide the LEO with my DL and CHL, he disarms me for his safety, I do not do anything during the stop to raise the LEO's suspicion or anxiety about me, then I would expect the LEO to place my firearm and magazine and/or ammo from a revolver or unchambered round from a semi-auto on my car trunk lid or in the bed of my pickup on the way back to his patrol. Absent RS or PC, the LEO going into the rear of my vehicle or putting anything in my glove box is an unwarranted fishing expedition. Having said that, you are pretty much at the mercy of the LEO and I would not chose to debate the matter at roadside.