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by Kalrog
Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:30 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walking through 30.06 signs
Replies: 85
Views: 14556

Re: Walking through 30.06 signs

Annoyed - let me ask you this. When you go to someone's house or to someone's business (after you get your CHL obviously): do you announce to the world + dog that you are carrying? I think the idea being that for those who have a CHL, we just carry and don't think anything of it. And we like being discrete about it. I don't tell people that I have a knife any more than I tell them that I have a gun. It just seems strange to expect someone to walk up to your house and say "Hi. I'm hear to fix the AC and I have a gun."

I wouldn't take offense in your more detailed example though (depending on how you phrased it). If I was printing and you noticed it and asked if I had a CHL then I have already messed up because you noticed. I think that gives you a good reason to ask. Although my default reaction to someone if they said yes they had a CHL would be to trust them until they proved unworthy of that trust (which I think differs from yours).

You also mentioned not wanting to carry at home. I see that as another difference between us. There are a dozen cop cars parked in my 5 street neighborhood (residents) and we are less than 2 miles from the local PD office. Safe neighborhood. But break-ins still happen and I take nothing for granted. I am more concerned about the times that I'm not expecting someone than the times that I am expecting someone. That AC guy will be able to be found through his employer if anything goes wrong. The random person who just barges in... not so much. Might not stop it from happening (hence the CHL), but at least there is some recourse in the aftermath.
by Kalrog
Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:46 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walking through 30.06 signs
Replies: 85
Views: 14556

Re: Walking through 30.06 signs

tbranch wrote:I carry all the time and that includes into private homes. If they have a valid 30.06 sign or gave me verbal notice, I would respect their wishes and leave my weapon in my vehicle.
Exactly. I would respect the wishes and either leave completely or just disarm and leave it in the car. But how is it common courtesy to leave it in the car at a private residence when no notice of any kind has been given? It isn't that I disagree with Annoyed's rights to control who is armed on his property - it is that he thinks it would be somehow rude of me to enter armed without his permission. I equate that to it being rude to breathe the air in his house without his permission. Or maybe it would be rude to carry my keys or pocket knife into his house as well? Those are just things that I always have with me and if I am invited, then the contents of my pockets go with me without a second thought.
by Kalrog
Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:19 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walking through 30.06 signs
Replies: 85
Views: 14556

Re: Walking through 30.06 signs

Logical... up to this.
The Annoyed Man wrote:I would expect common courtesy to dictate that the individual would just automatically leave their weapon in the car unless they had first asked my permission. I trust all of my friends. My friends are all welcome to carry if they feel the need. Strangers have not yet earned my trust, and in that event, I want to be the only one armed.
Common courtesy? To disarm? Heck no! Common courtesy would be don't draw on me - don't do anything to make me think that I need to protect myself from you. Okay. But I don't disarm when going to a stranger's house because they aren't going to know unless the NEED arises, and then I better be armed.

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