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by Tracker
Fri May 29, 2015 10:48 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Replies: 319
Views: 95321

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

AJSully421 wrote:
Scott Farkus wrote:I suspect CC is the price we had to pay to get OC through without a fight. Sad that we aren't left with enough time or political capital to realistically do anything about CC, but at least we got the OC elephant out of the room. Hopefully this clears the decks next session so the grownups can get back to work.

Agreed. Hopefuly we can get a HB308 type bill in 17 that wipes the whole slate, campus, polling places, probably not bars based on what Charles has said in the past, but I could deal with bars being the only places prohibited, maybe reduced to a class B or something.

I would like the see HB 308 become law but I think you'd have to get campus carry out of the way first.
by Tracker
Thu May 28, 2015 5:03 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Replies: 319
Views: 95321

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Concession on campus guns, open carry agreement reached
4:38 p.m. Thursday, May 28, 2015 | Filed in: News

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by Tracker
Mon May 25, 2015 7:24 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Replies: 319
Views: 95321

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Ruark wrote:
Tracker wrote:Ooookay.....so if they believe the conceal carry program works off campus why would they oppose conceal carry on campus? What do they think is so different?
Because of the misperception of the legislation; the belief that concealed guns aren't presently allowed (they are), and that you'd have immature, overemotional college kids, drunk frat boys and the like waving guns around, ready to shoot the professor if they don't get a good grade, etc.
Ive heard them make those arguments and they were corrected so I don't know if it's misperceptions of talking points
by Tracker
Mon May 25, 2015 6:35 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Replies: 319
Views: 95321

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

flintknapper wrote:
Tracker wrote:In the committee and floor debates on open carry, not one democrat voice an opinion against conceal carry for the general public. The one's who did mention conceal carry when arguing against the open carry bills acknowledged they believed in the success of the conceal carry program, that the original fears had proved to be false.

Ooookay.....so if they believe the conceal carry program works off campus why would they oppose conceal carry on campus? What do they think is so different? If they believe it's not a good program to have on campus what do they expect to happen that's different from being out in the general population? What rational argument could they present against campus carry? What stats can they pull from states like Colorado, Utah, and Idaho to argue campus conceal carry isn't working in those states?

http://www.armedcampuses.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^^^^^^^^^^ An excellent point Sir!

Sadly, it will fail to persuade Democrats (largely liberals)....since it is steeped in 'logic'.

Now...if you were to write something oozing with emotion (no matter whether true or not), you might get their attention. ;)

Flint.
Thanks, if I were a rep debating for CC. I would hammer ever democrat arguing against cc, esp. the ones who are on record for acknowledging the success of CHL program. If they''ve never mentioned the CHL program I'd push them state whether they thought the CHL program was a failure. If they say they thought it's been a failure I'd make the explain why they thought so and remind them that many of their fellow democrats don't agree with their beliefs.

It just seems to me the repulicans ought to be able to command the debate since so many democrats have acknowledged the program's sucess
by Tracker
Mon May 25, 2015 3:42 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Replies: 319
Views: 95321

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

In the committee and floor debates on open carry, not one democrat voice an opinion against conceal carry for the general public. The one's who did mention conceal carry when arguing against the open carry bills acknowledged they believed in the success of the conceal carry program, that the original fears had proved to be false.

Ooookay.....so if they believe the conceal carry program works off campus why would they oppose conceal carry on campus? What do they think is so different? If they believe it's not a good program to have on campus what do they expect to happen that's different from being out in the general population? What rational argument could they present against campus carry? What stats can they pull from states like Colorado, Utah, and Idaho to argue campus conceal carry isn't working in those states?

http://www.armedcampuses.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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