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by Papa_Tiger
Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:26 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: The Declaration of Independence
Replies: 48
Views: 8766

Re: The Declaration of Independence

bblhd672 wrote:That would be the same "Supreme" Court that says it is constitutional to kill unborn babies by the millions, that essentially rewrote Obamacare in order to declare it constitutional? The same court that under a Clinton presidency will likely say the 2nd Amendment as we know it is no longer valid?
The words of the Declaration clearly lay out for us today what our rights are as the people to dissolve a non-working, corrupt and belligerent government.
I'm just saying that the last time a group of states tried to leave the union, they were dragged back in after an estimated 620,000 men lost their lives in the line of duty. The next time a state or group of states decides that it is time to pull out of the American experiment or try to reboot it... Lets just say it will not be pretty for the US or the rest of the world.

Remaking nations is not a pretty business and not something that should be done while the evils of the current government are sufferable.
I have a hard time believing that even under Hillary
* The US government will commit enough blatant atrocities to rekindle the warrior spirit of the American People
* There are enough people who live on principle in the US and are willing to die on principle that they will rise up against an overreaching government
* Those who would rise up would have the support they needed to win against said despotic government, particularly when the masses who have in large part voted for said government have their entitlements and handouts disrupted

It is one thing to dissolve allegiance to a government that is weeks away by the fastest transport available when communication is slow at best when you are relatively self sufficient. It is another thing entirely to dissolve allegiance to a government that is at most 5 hours away by plane that has near instantaneous communication capability and a significant monopoly on force.
by Papa_Tiger
Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:46 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: The Declaration of Independence
Replies: 48
Views: 8766

Re: The Declaration of Independence

Jeff B. wrote:A very timely post...

"...and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. "

We are not bound to the federal leviathan. Those who profit from its existence, of course maintain that we are...

Jeff B.
Ahh but we are. The conclusion of the War of Northern Aggression and Texas v. White settled that. Once a State has entered the union, it is no longer an independent state and cannot dissolve the bonds of said union peacefully or through force. Since the Constitution states that it and Federal Law is "the supreme law of the land", once in, the formerly free state must now be subject and no longer wholly free.

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