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MommaBear wrote:What do you mean by opposing an NRA bill?

AJSully421 wrote:Well... while I hear what you are saying, there is something that you missed, and it is pretty substantial.

Govt code 411.209 states (in part):

Sec. 411.209. WRONGFUL EXCLUSION OF CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A state agency or a political subdivision of the state may not provide notice by a communication described by Section 30.06, Penal Code, or by any sign expressly referring to that law or to a concealed handgun license, that a license holder carrying a handgun under the authority of this subchapter is prohibited from entering or remaining on a premises or other place owned or leased by the governmental entity unless license holders are prohibited from carrying a handgun on the premises or other place by Section 46.03 or 46.035, Penal Code.

So... removing those places that I mentioned from the list in PC 46, even with the current scheme of having subsection (I) that exempts some of these places unless 30.06 is posted, would do much more than you have indicated. This alone would make the Dallas zoo suddenly no longer off limits. It would also serve to reduce confusion about what places are off-limits (We have to clear that up monthly around here), and it would be a step in the right direction if nothing else.

I do agree that getting the whole thing tossed is what I want... but there is a Rolling Stones song about getting what you want.

AJSully421 wrote:Getting elementary - high schools removed, as well as bars will be a big battle... but even if we can get racetracks, polling places, churches, amusement parks, city / county meetings, and hospitals off of the list, then that will just leave bars, jails, schools, courtrooms, and airports.

I would even support concealed only in schools or bars , like they did on college campus... if that is what it takes to get it passed. But I think that open carry has become such a snooze fest that even the most liberal nutjobs around have to admit that it has been a total non-issue, and that there is no reason to assume that it will suddenly become a big problem between now and Jan 10, 2017 when the 85th TXLEG Session starts.

ELB wrote:

mr1337 wrote:

wtgib wrote:Remove "verbal notification". Signs must be posted if you don't want to allow oc or cc.

Won't happen. Property owners have a right to ask anyone to leave at any time for (almost) any reason.

And it shouldn't happen -- all it would do is result in more signs.

Penal Code 46.03 - amended wrote: (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):

(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building owned or controlled by the school on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless:

(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institutionschool; or

(B) the person possesses or goes with a concealed handgun that the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and no other weapon to which this section applies, on the premises of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education, on any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by the institution is being conducted, or in a passenger transportation vehicle of the institution;