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by RPBrown
Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun
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Re: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun

anygunanywhere wrote:If I saw a repairman's concealed firearm I would quickly dive for the nearest cover (not concealment), draw my weapon and yell "Freeze!! Don't move!!"

I would then order him to drop to his knees and clasp his hands over his head. Then I would ease up behind him keeping him covered and disarm him. I would then search him for other weapons and then handcuff him.

I would then produce my CHL badge and read him his rights as I called for the local LEO to come back me up and remove this person from my property.

Just kidding.

At this point in my life I probably wouldn't say a thing.

I might start a conversation about it. After paying for the last electrician though my thought would be to urge him to get the work done and be on his way. Paying labor charges to shoot the breeze about guns is not high on my list.

Anygunanywhere

"rlol" "rlol"

Customers are always saying we rob them anyway :cryin .
by RPBrown
Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:37 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun
Replies: 87
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Re: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun

Choctaw wrote:I carry a Sig P938 in a wallet holster. Chances of it falling out are very remote, chances of it being spotted by the client are very remote.

I can't see how this got turned into a "shooting the homeowner" thread. I size up my new client on the phone, driving through their neighborhood, when I arrive at their location and finally when I meet them at the door. There is very little room for error by following these steps. In over 30 yrs of going "cold" to a clients home I've never been in a compromising situation. Now, the neighborhood, that's a whole 'nuther story.

My reason for carrying into a clients home is so that when I go to and from their home to pick parts from my van...I'm protected. If I were to encounter a bad guy, I highly doubt they would have the decency to allow me to dig through my bag or get into my console to get prepared for the confrontation. I've had tools stolen from my van in as little as 3 minutes from the time I closed the door and reentered the building, I've had people insist I give them money, etc.

I might ad that VERY few of my clients are "cold/unknown" clients to me any longer. The vast majority of my clients are by referral.
When I loaded my tool bag in the truck, it would ALWAYS be in the passenger seat with the gun pocket turned to me for easy access. When in a "bad area" of town, I can easily take it out, put it under a towel on my center console.

I suggest that a homeowner find service companies that they trust and stay with them. I have used the same electrical and plumbing companies (I do my own HVAC ;-) ) for years. Due to their low turn over rate and my wifes need to remodel every few years :mrgreen: , I know most of the people that work for these companies and would not have an issue with them carrying in my house. Most service companies will call when the tech (or plumber) is on the way. We requested and both companies have impemented as policy, that when that call is made, they also tell us the name of the tech.

I would also make sure that a companies have run background checks, drug screens, and physicals on their employees. Not a sure cure but it helps.
by RPBrown
Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:40 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun
Replies: 87
Views: 19999

Re: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun

03Lightningrocks wrote:Two issues for carrying in homes of other people to be VERY aware of. First and most important, if you do end up using your weapon against a person in their home, you are going to have a very tough time esplainin that one Lucy! Second and a very big issue for anyone doing repair work that involves sweat and summer heat. Sweat can destroy your precious carry piece. I was not thinking one day and started working on my truck in the garage. It was hot hot hot. I was sweating all over my PM9 while in its holster. We have had at least one instance of an armed person assaulting a home owner in a garage. Right after that happened, I was feeling the need to have my gun on me. I came in for a water break and pulled the gun and holster out and set it in the cabinet. I forgot about it for a day or so. It had rust all over it. Fortunately not deep rust. I was able to get it off without doing damage to the weapon. A couple more days may have been real bad.

I like the idea posted above about carrying in a tool bag. That eliminates the possibility of the weapon falling out in front of a customer or even being lost in the attic. It also takes care of the issue of sweating all over the gun.

Once more for fun. I cannot possibly stress the seriousness of the situation if you do shoot a home owner in their own home! :shock:
Not just the homeowner that worries me. 90% of my work is commercial but on occassion I do go to a home. However, In my younger days when I was "working my tools", there were times I encountered not so friendly wildlife. Snakes on several occassions, coyotes under a house (nearly made a new exit in the floor on that one), raccoons, etc.. I might add that both times I was robbed, I was on a commercial call.
by RPBrown
Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:26 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun
Replies: 87
Views: 19999

Re: What would you say to a repair guy if you saw his gun

I too am in the service industry (HVAC) and that is what prompted me to get my CHL as soon as it was legal. I was robbed at gun point on 2 different jobsites back in the late 80's and early 90's.

I no longer work my tools but prior to becoming a desk jocky I would carry a tool bag instead of a tool belt. In this bag would be my weapon of choice. Now when I go to a jobsite I am able to carry on person.

As far as what I or my wife would say to a service person in our home, nothing. That is unless something were to happen. In that case, I would hope that our training would kick in. I can safely trust that my wife will have her weapon with her the entire time he is there.

As a side note that happened a couple of months ago, she was home alone and a guy came to the door saying he was there to fix the heat. She told him he had the wrong house. He said no, that her husband had called for the service call. She assured him that was not true and strongly :oops: urged him to leave. When he insisted again, she moved her hand around where he could dee the XD she was holding and she proceeded to call 911. Needless to say he left quickly. She was able to get his plate # and type of truck. LEO's caught him a couple of blocks away trying the same thing.

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