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TrueFlog wrote:

terryg wrote:It looks like even though private institutions can opt out, that they will now be forced to post 30.06 signs. Am I wrong?


That is a lot of doors in a lot of buildings ...

I don't see anything in the bill that requires a private institution to post 30.06 when they opt out. However, the bill does state that 30.06 must be posted in order for concealed carry to constitute a crime. [Section 46.035 (a-2)] I would infer that if a private institution opts-out and posts 30.06, then anyone carrying concealed would be subject to arrest as well as discipline by the school (eg. expulsion). If the private institution opts-out but does not post 30.06, then an individual would still be subject to discipline by the school, but could not be charged with a crime.

CJD wrote:

Bladed wrote:

CJD wrote:

casp625 wrote:

CJD wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:

v7a wrote:The bill author already said he will not oppose the partial-opt-out amendment. I have a feeling that's because a deal has been struck whereby Democrats will not filibuster the bill. Or maybe that's just my imagination running wild... In any case, I think passing SB11 as amended is better than not passing SB11 at all (go read the language of the partial-opt-out amendment, it's not as bad as you may think at first).

I agree, the only system that will have enough votes to ban guns in any meaningful way will be the UT system. The rest will have campus carry, with maybe a few restrictions in only a few locations on campus.

Never forget: Concealed means concealed.

Don't underestimate boards of regents. I bet we will see large opt outs at ALL Texas public universities.

Yes but they wouldn't be able to opt out the entire campus, only certain areas with "justification"

I know, and I'm sure that will be abused, and can't be remedied until 2017. I agree, though, that it's better than nothing. To me, decriminalization is more important than preemption on "rules and regulations."

I'm not sure what you mean about decriminalization versus preemption of "rules and regulations." Under the Zerwas amendment, colleges would still be allowed to criminalize concealed carry in regent-approved zones, and they'd still be prohibited from regulating concealed carry everywhere else.

You are right. I saw a post where Charles said it was decriminalized, but I must have misunderstood what he meant. So would a violation be an offense under 30.06 or 46.03? Big difference.

CJD wrote:

casp625 wrote:

CJD wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:

v7a wrote:The bill author already said he will not oppose the partial-opt-out amendment. I have a feeling that's because a deal has been struck whereby Democrats will not filibuster the bill. Or maybe that's just my imagination running wild... In any case, I think passing SB11 as amended is better than not passing SB11 at all (go read the language of the partial-opt-out amendment, it's not as bad as you may think at first).

I agree, the only system that will have enough votes to ban guns in any meaningful way will be the UT system. The rest will have campus carry, with maybe a few restrictions in only a few locations on campus.

Never forget: Concealed means concealed.

Don't underestimate boards of regents. I bet we will see large opt outs at ALL Texas public universities.

Yes but they wouldn't be able to opt out the entire campus, only certain areas with "justification"

I know, and I'm sure that will be abused, and can't be remedied until 2017. I agree, though, that it's better than nothing. To me, decriminalization is more important than preemption on "rules and regulations."

CJD wrote:

safety1 wrote:

Bladed wrote:

safety1 wrote:

bauerdj wrote:When can we expect a vote on concurrence? I no longer have much interest in who is responsible for the delays etc. My interest for the immediate time period is directed at the status of the different bills that are still alive (especially OC and Campus Carry). After the sessions are over there will be plenty of time who did what on 2A items and react appropriatley.

Amen!
SB11 should be heard on the House floor tomorrow.
HB910 concurrence vote is thought to be mid week. Not yet scheduled

The concurrence vote won't be scheduled the way a vote on a bill is. The bill will become eligible 24 hours after the report was issued. After that, the vote could happen any time.

Bladed, isn't a day set aside for just concurrence votes? I'd be leaning towards that day. I guess we will see.

I think they will go for it earlier in case it needs a conference committee.

safety1 wrote:

bauerdj wrote:When can we expect a vote on concurrence? I no longer have much interest in who is responsible for the delays etc. My interest for the immediate time period is directed at the status of the different bills that are still alive (especially OC and Campus Carry). After the sessions are over there will be plenty of time who did what on 2A items and react appropriatley.

Amen!
SB11 should be heard on the House floor tomorrow.
HB910 concurrence vote is thought to be mid week. Not yet scheduled

v7a wrote:Can a POO be called in the House on something the Senate did with regards to SB11? Or can a POO only be called on whatever procedural actions (i.e. how it was considered in committee) have been taken so far on SB11 in the House?

If the former, I hope the Senate is going over everything to double-check there are no procedural errors with SB11 (and fixes any issues found before Tuesday).

safety1 wrote:This is good, but it must pass clean or it will have to go back to the senate, where it will die via filibuster or otherwise.

TexasJohnBoy wrote:House Calendars Committee now meeting. According to agreement with Senate, should schedule vote on campus carry, SB11. #txlege -- just tweeted

NotRPB wrote:

arthurcw wrote:does that mean we have our answer?

@joepojman 6m6 minutes ago

We are told the House Calendars Comm will meet once more before the 10 pm deadline. Stay tuned. #txlege
8:41 PM - 24 May 2015 · Details

TexasJohnBoy wrote:Minutes still arent posted. I bet the calendar for Tuesday wont be updated until the minutes are posted from the calendars committee. I hope that tweet is right.

v7a wrote:@lmcgaughy tweet 27 minutes ago:

I may be late to the game here, but word is #campuscarry debate will take place on House floor Tuesday #txlege #gunbills #SB11

TexasJohnBoy wrote:Calendars met at 6:35. No minutes posted yet. SB11 should be on there if everyone kept their word...

Xikar wrote:

Bladed wrote: Nobody is being paid off. Campus carry has enough opponents who will gladly and freely throw up procedural challenges, without the need for anyone to risk an ethics violation.

Don't be so naive. Corruption is alive and well in government. It happens. It's hard to prove if somebody brings up formal charges especially if it's some politicians acting in the best interest of the liberal media who will not cover it.

Benghazi?

Xikar wrote:The anti gun crowd can't stop anything at this point. They're greatly outnumbered in emails, faxes and calls from those who believe in the constitution and don't drink the sheep kool aid.

What I fear now is clerical error sabotage and certain representatives paid off by bloomberg to stall for time with amendments, procedural gimmicks and other legislative tactics.