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Wes wrote:

Ruark wrote:Can anybody furnish a succinct description of the process of going through the House, where SB17 is now headed? Will we have to listen to more spiels of testimony from people like Acevedo and ignorant anti-gun politicians? And what about amendments? Will it go through another laundry list of proposed amendments?

What if it doesn't pass the House? Will that be the end of it, or will it go back to the Senate or some committee for rewriting?

There is a good discussion of what's next started in the house bill thread - viewtopic.php?f=133&t=76719&start=120#p969961" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Strat9mm wrote:

Bladed wrote:

Strat9mm wrote:With the minimal class time required now, I really don't see the point.

30 days should be more than enough.

Slow-tracking those who are already licensed is just that, slow-tracking those who are already licensed.

And on thinking about this even more, I don't think there should be any delay at all if the bill is passed.

Instructors and DPS can deal with the curriculum changes on their own time, not 'ours'.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this is your first time supporting a controversial bill in the Texas Legislature.

After the first couple of times you see your pet bill go down in flames (with 18-month interims between sessions), your perspective on time will change quite a bit. The people who know what it's like to spend years fighting for a single bill understand that a four-month delay is nothing in the long run.

The first time campus carry passed out of the Texas Senate (2009), the effective date was pushed back a full year, from September 1, 2009, to September 1, 2010. Considering that September 1, 2010, was four years, six months, and sixteen days ago and that we're still fighting to pass campus carry, that one-year delay doesn't seem so long anymore.

Honestly, I'd prefer to see it passed, asap, and put into effect for licensed carriers immediately.

But if not, meh.

You see, I don't have a very positive outlook for the future. As far as I'm concerned, WW-III (three) already started with Gulf War II, and it won't end until.. well, the battle of (or more accurately, at) Armageddon (a real location). That's just a personal view.

And if my view is accurate, in a very short time, very few people will care whether it's legal to carry, open or concealed. They will just carry, because law-enforcement will be paralyzed by riots and other unnatural disasters and it will be every man, and woman, and family, for themselves.

But perhaps if we stop dilly-dallying, perhaps just a few more lives can be saved, or at least prolonged just a bit.. until all heck breaks loose.

Either way, our future is pretty much set, in my considered opinion.

So why don't we just get on with it.

Strat9mm wrote:With the minimal class time required now, I really don't see the point.

30 days should be more than enough.

Slow-tracking those who are already licensed is just that, slow-tracking those who are already licensed.

And on thinking about this even more, I don't think there should be any delay at all if the bill is passed.

Instructors and DPS can deal with the curriculum changes on their own time, not 'ours'.