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by NcongruNt
Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:12 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: MSNBC poll on allowing students to carry on campus
Replies: 31
Views: 4487

I don't know about you, but my guns don't just sit around willy-nilly. They're locked and secured in immovable lockboxes. In the car, that's a safe bolted in a secure spot without the possibility of removal unless power tools are involved.

As far as the notion that someone that young with a CHL is inherently irresponsible... Every 21 year old CHL holder/applicant I've ever met has been steeped in conscious gun safety and security from a very young age, and I would say are far more responsible with their guns than many "adult" CHL holders. I think you make some very brash assumptions when it comes to college-age CCWers.
by NcongruNt
Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: MSNBC poll on allowing students to carry on campus
Replies: 31
Views: 4487

Big_Hitter wrote:since when do we vote on individual rights or personal freedoms?

some things transcend majority rule

this shouldn't be the subject of a poll
A poll is simply a measure of public opinion.

The better question to ask is this:

Why do we legislate away our individual rights or personal freedoms?

The only way to change that atrocity is through public opinion and action. A poll is a first step in that direction, and can show public opinion to the legislators who take away those freedoms. Although I don't think the results are a measure of true public opinion but rather internet interest groups (such as ours), I wouldn't say a poll is out of reason. It allows us as citizens to express our interest in exercising our rights and affirm our freedoms.
by NcongruNt
Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:25 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: MSNBC poll on allowing students to carry on campus
Replies: 31
Views: 4487

What I don't get, is that according to the MSNBC story Cho seemed to have been involuntarily admitted for psychiatric treatment by the county magistrate, and this was in 2005. This should have absolutely shown up on a background check with the FBI and he should never have been sold a firearm. The media seems to be blaming the gun shop owner for selling him a firearm. If this reporting is correct, I'd put the fault with the FBI for failing to deny his purchase of a firearm during the background check.
Police obtained a temporary detention order from a local magistrate, and in December of that year, Cho was briefly admitted to Carilion St. Albans Behavioral Health Center in Radford, NBC News’ Jim Popkin reported.
Any thoughts?

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