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Yep, my bad. Should have said odd. Sorry about that.

[Making sure my soapbox is nice and sturdy...]

If we're actually talking about a Texas CHL class here, you might refer the instructor to page 17 of the CHL-16:

Sec. 411.188. HANDGUN PROFICIENCY REQUIREMENT.
(d) Only a qualified handgun instructor may administer the proficiency examination to obtain or to renew a license. The proficiency examination must include:
(1) a written section on the subjects listed in Subsection (b); and
(2) a physical demonstration of proficiency...

Add in DPS policy that 70% is a passing score on the written exam, it's hard to understand the instructors belief that there are no rules about how the test is to be administered.

Frighteningly for you and the others, it might even be argued that the license of anyone "tested" that way is not valid because they didn't actually demonstrate their proficiency.

[Clambering down from soapbox now.]

Hmm. Well, this ain't gonna work.

:-) You're right, technically (B) is still correct. Problem is that a new student would not know what the heck the question is even talking about unless you explain what SA and NSA used to mean but no longer do.

And the last one you mentioned. I see. Thanks.

Oh well, in the scope of important stuff in the world, a couple of temporarily annoying questions don't amount to the proverbial hill-o-beans. With any luck we'll see a new and accurate test in the next week, and all this will be moot. Moot is good.

I was so shocked by the reply to my last post that I forgot why I'd signed on! Ahem:

6 Point Star wrote:I have a test with the four questions that no longer apply blacked out...

I just went through the questions and only see three that I would say have been rendered moot by the 2013 changes. Without giving away any specifics about the test, they are:

(A) An even-numbered multiple choice question relating to renewals. Will not apply after 9/1.

(B) An even-numbered T/F question relating to SA/NSA types. Already defunct.

(C) An even-numbered T/F question relating to missing the renewal grace period. Will not apply after 9/1 (unless DPS somehow creates a grace period. The new statute seems clear that renewals shall happen before expiration).

Can you tell me if you agree with my assessment, and which one I am missing?

Thanks!

jmra wrote: I didn't even see a copy of the test my last class. The instructor read the questions to the group and we all "participated" by answering orally.

HOLY COW! Wait, you're pulling our legs. Aren't you? Please say yes.

6 Point Star wrote:I have a test with the four questions that no longer apply blacked out that is what I will use if DPS is not forthcoming with the needed information. I will give a 46 question test. I will not teach the "test says this but but the law says this". I see no reason to confuse the students any more than we are.

Great minds. Following the test in my class yesterday, I decided that if a corrected test is not forthcoming, I'd do just that: mark the questions off the test sheet and just score 'em as correct. Much more expeditious and far less confusing for the student (who is already suffering from information overload) than "you'll have to answer it this way, but in reality..."

switch wrote:I changed one answer ... and lined out some verbiage and added 'prior to expiration'.

I'd be real cautious about modifying the actual text of any questions or answers. Even if you change only one word, you are in essence writing your own test question - and we have no authority to do that. I realize you're achieving essentially the same end as simply ignoring a question, but I can envision an ugly scenario or two where it might create some difficulty for you down the road. Just my two percent observation ($.02).