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by locke_n_load
Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:14 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

twomillenium wrote: I respect your right to believe that. I believe the boo's were orchestrated and some folks are not for sale.
:iagree:
by locke_n_load
Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:10 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

Charles L. Cotton wrote: Cruz's failure wasn't the lack of stating "I endorse Trump," it was what he said about the voting booth. Cruz said to go down the ballot and vote for people individually. (Message: Don't vote straight Republican ticket.] Then he said to "vote your conscience." Overall his speech was great, but it was the ending I have discussed that drew boos so loud his final words could hardly be heard.
I don't believe anyone should vote straight ticket either, and that is a message I can support.

I think Newt said something about Cruz saying vote your conscience, and that there's only one conscience choice you can make to keep Hillary out of the white house, which I thought was a good message.
The rest of Trump's camp could have said something similar, and actually used Cruz's message to help unify the party, but instead Trump went on to say "Ted Cruz booed off the stage, didn't honor the pledge! I saw his speech two hours early but let him speak anyway. No big deal"
And his son "The best unity I saw was everyone booing Cruz offstage."

Yeah, that really helps bring everyone together. Instead of putting out good, positive vibes and unity, Team Trump just slams someone who is not even in the running, who didn't say anything negative about their candidate. Cruz also stated yesterday that people should not write in his name and that he is not a candidate in this race.
by locke_n_load
Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:46 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

LSUTiger wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:So the actual statement made during the debates was " Senator Cruz, yes or no, you will support Donald Trump is he's the nominee?"

I think you can support someone without officially endorsing them - he did speak at the RNC, where he did garner attention, denounce democrats, and did not say anything negative about Trump.
I believe someone in Trump's camp also asked if he would help Trump with his SC appointees, and Ted said he would give input, if asked, to ensure people who uphold the Constitution are put into SCOTUS. That sounds like support to me.
:iagree:

I think Cruz will no doubt work with and assist Trump to achieve all the things he talked about in his speech. And given the history of Trump's vitriol toward Cruz with the "lying Ted", calling his wife crazy and ugly, saying his father helped assassinate Kennedy and accused him of having multiple affairs and all the rest , it takes a pretty big man to even show up to speak at the RNC, pledge or no pledge. Everything he said was positive and representative of what IMHO the party and the country desperately need, to get back on message and on track.

I truly believe Ted Cruz has the best interest of the country at heart. It has been reported that Trumps own campaign at the last minute tried to threaten Cruz to endorse Trump or they would sabotaged the message of the speech by organizing some delegates to boo Cruz if he didn't out right endorse him. If everyone simply would have cheered and applauded it would have been perceived as an endorsement. So if Cruz's speech, which was pre-approved by the Trump campaign costs Trump the election, it's Trump own fault.

If I recall correctly, Trump initially said he was going to run regardless of the nomination when it wasn't yet as clear he was going to be the nominee and then when it became more apparent he was going to be he signed a pledge. How convenient.
Nail on head LSU.
by locke_n_load
Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:05 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
Replies: 206
Views: 44932

Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

So the actual statement made during the debates was " Senator Cruz, yes or no, you will support Donald Trump is he's the nominee?"

I think you can support someone without officially endorsing them - he did speak at the RNC, where he did garner attention, denounce democrats, and did not say anything negative about Trump.
I believe someone in Trump's camp also asked if he would help Trump with his SC appointees, and Ted said he would give input, if asked, to ensure people who uphold the Constitution are put into SCOTUS. That sounds like support to me.

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