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by locke_n_load
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:58 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 24540

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

twomillenium wrote:
locke_n_load wrote: Since she hasn't had the three tries yet, I will just leave her proficiency as blank for now and upload that copy, then upload a separate one just for her range proficiency. I'm going to get her to do a warmup on the range so that I can see her shooting has improved before actually giving her her third try to avoid having a failed 3rd test. Thanks.
You only need to send separate CHL8, you can supply her with only one CHL100 with the appropriate dates filled in for each portion. The bottom date should be the date that the completed CHL100 was issued. BTW, a student can take a proficiency test before, during or after the classroom portion, even if it was given on separate dates.

P.S. the patience you show will be returned many times over. Why some students can be frustrating, they are usually trying to overcome fear and lack of experience and you are the first responder to this and probably their best chance. Do follow the directions required by the TDPS. :tiphat:
Yeah I meant the proficiency on the CHL-8 I was leaving blank for now, I am filling out the CHL-100 as she completes those portions successfully. She and her husband took the class together, so I'm also doing this for him too (friend/coworker of mine). Hopefully they will recommend me to more folks seeing that I actually care.
by locke_n_load
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:36 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 24540

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

twomillenium wrote:I submit a CHL 8 for the student that shoots on a separate day even if they are the only student on the CHL. I do not check off on the portion of the test not taken on that day. The CHL8 does not allow multiple dates, I was instructed by the Dept. that if the classroom portion was more than one day, that I should use the last day because that should also reflect the day of the written test.

Sometimes the same student will appear on 2 separate CHL8s, one for classroom and one for proficiency. I issue one CHL100 with proper date of classroom and proficiency in space provided for such. If a student wants their classroom CHL100 or just wants proficiency then I VOID the area not received by me. (This is rare) I have had no problem with the Dept., when using these procedures.
An Instructor should never check failed on any portion of the CHL8 unless the student has failed 3 times or refused to retake a failed test. Incomplete is shown by not checking either pass or fail and the CHL100 should never be filled out in that portion and if student requests an incomplete CHL100 then the portion not taken should be unsigned and VOIDED.
Since she hasn't had the three tries yet, I will just leave her proficiency as blank for now and upload that copy, then upload a separate one just for her range proficiency. I'm going to get her to do a warmup on the range so that I can see her shooting has improved before actually giving her her third try to avoid having a failed 3rd test. Thanks.
by locke_n_load
Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 24540

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

Question:
I had a student fail the shooting portion twice, and at that point, I wanted her to get some additional training (her husband would be able to do that). Is it written somewhere that she has to retake the whole course? I guess she has 1 more try either way. I have signed off on half the CHL-100 stating she passed the written the test. I intend to sign the proficiency portion when she comes back with the correct date and passes (not charging her any money).
Should I submit my form CHL-8 with a check next to written test as passed and a check next to failed for the proficiency test and submit, then submit a CHL-8 separately just for her proficiency when she passes?

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