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The OP seems to have gone radio silent. I hope that he will come back and let us know the outcome. It's an interesting case for sure.

MONGOOSE wrote:I don't remember the gang affiliation question on my CHL app. I don't doubt your word that it is there. I do have a problem with a bunch of State or Federal bureaucrats defining what an outlaw gang is.

My apologies, I had to go research the question. It's in the CHL hand book on page 44 under PC §46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. I thought it was on the application, it isn't on the new one.

MONGOOSE wrote:First of all, I have had my issues with motor cycle ( club/gang members. ) However, this is a slippery slope. Lookike a thug to who? I'm sure some of the anti gunners would classify all of us a diviant thugs. If someone is legally exercising their 2A rights legally ( CHL for now). I don't care what club or gang they belong to or what they look like.....next all AQHA members.....we abuse animals don't you know.

The distinction between exercising your 2A rights and being associated with an OMC is night and day. There is a question on the form for CHL that expressly asks "if you are a member of a gang" WE don't get to define what "gang" is, the DPS and LEO/FBI do!

So, if he is a member or associate of a known OMC, he can expect the full force and weight of law enforcement to be brought against him. A CHL does not shield you from any "gang" associations regardless if his record is squeaky clean. Being a member or associate is cause for revocation.

If he's not, I support him 100% and hope this turns out well.

If I misunderstood your question or comment, please feel free to clarify or correct me. At this point in time, the OP has been vague with answers. That is his right but it leads to interpretation and that interpretation is where the law and most posters fall.

Stew wrote:

mojo84 wrote:This comment implies you are in a MC that is made up of current and former law enforcement officers. Is that the case? I think some of us are curious to know if you are actually a victim of unscrupulous cops or are just playing one. Some of the things you've said tend to lead me to the latter.

My patch is a 3 piece patch along with every other law enforcement motorcycle club who wears a 3 piece parch but are not profiled as such

Read the post in detail again,

Definitely not in a LE club the gentleman made reference to a 3 piece patch and it's meaning I my clubs patch is a 3 piece like LE clubs so to wear a 3 piece patch but they are not classified or profiled as law breaking individuals.

Quick question, If you're wearing a bottom rocker, was it sanctioned and approved by the banditos? If it was, OR your MC is recognized by LEO as an OMC, be prepared to lose your CHL. It appears that you have been targeted as part of an OMC.

Do you belong to a recognized "MC"? Did you have any patches visible that would lead the PD to believe you were?

I'm interested in your case from a purely non partisan perspective. I have friends who ride in clubs and have no association with known outlaw "clubs".

Thanks.

Stew wrote:Evening all,

Just providing a update. I hired a fantastic attorney and he worked hard to get my weapon released. Now the retaliation against me has immediately begun with the Seargent filing paperwork with the state to have my CHL revoked to which I will continue to fight for my right to legally carry and ride free in this great state. As I stated earlier I have did nothing wrong. This is profiling at the highest level. I am in the final stages of filing a civil rights lawsuit against all involved. Once again thank you all for the advice.

Be Blessed

On what basis are they trying to revoke your CHL?