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by twomillenium
Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:55 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Home defense: birdshot
Replies: 49
Views: 10340

Re: Home defense: birdshot

Never ever did I say birdshot was more powerful than buckshot. Birdshot would not be a good choice outside of home defense, but it is more than effective inside the home with rooms no larger than 30 ft. especially where more than one people are in the home or the home is in the burbs, apartment or condo. I have witnessed similar threats and I would not depend on one shot to stop the threat and that is with any firearm.

If I feel the need for more, I kinda like this. I have done this but I don't know how they would act in a pump or semi shotgun. Maybe something worth trying out in the pump or semi.
by twomillenium
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:49 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Home defense: birdshot
Replies: 49
Views: 10340

Re: Home defense: birdshot

AndyC wrote:
twomillenium wrote:birdshot inside the home is macho enough for defense and it is the intelligent choice for home defense....birdshot has proven to be more than efficient to stop a threat inside the home.
It isn't and hasn't, but carry on.

I believe that people who use birdshot aren't concerned with over-penetration as much as they might protest otherwise (or they'd simply refuse to use any of their handguns inside, too) but can't stand the fact that someone might die from being shot so they use birdshot because "I just wanna pepper him a little bit and scare him away".

That article had zero to do with terminal ballistics and focused merely on the penetration of sheet-rock - I'm hardly convinced. While people have died from being shot with birdshot, to my mind dying is irrelevant: my questions are "How many cases are there and what percentage of them stopped. Of those stopped, how fast did they stop after being shot and how far away were they?". Other than close-up assassinations, I'm sure there are very few.
It is, it has and that is proven
by twomillenium
Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Home defense: birdshot
Replies: 49
Views: 10340

Re: Home defense: birdshot

cyphertext wrote:I notice the writer is a Sheriff... if he carried a shotgun on patrol, what did he have it loaded with?
The article stated that he carried 00 buck in his patrol car and birdshot in his home defense shotgun. It also stated that the shooter is entirely responsible for everything and anything they shoot, no matter their good intentions. I personally witnessed a similar test/demonstration and that convinced me that birdshot inside the home is macho enough for defense and it is the intelligent choice for home defense. As far as hearing or knowing of an innocent being seriously shot or killed by friendly fire from a home defense shotgun, I don't know of any but I don't want to be the first when birdshot has proven to be more than efficient to stop a threat inside the home.

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