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by twomillenium
Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:19 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Qualification w/40 rounds?
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Re: Qualification w/40 rounds?

If the middle is shot out then the count would go to the shooter, that has not changed. Therefore the middle must not have been shot out if only 40 shots could be counted.
by twomillenium
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:27 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Qualification w/40 rounds?
Replies: 40
Views: 9067

Re: Qualification w/40 rounds?

Must have been Instructors class since most don't teach scoring in CHL class. It was my bad I should have mentioned I had attended the June 2013 Instructors class.
by twomillenium
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:41 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Qualification w/40 rounds?
Replies: 40
Views: 9067

Re: Qualification w/40 rounds?

sjfcontrol wrote:The CHL proficiency exam is a 50-round course of fire. That, however, does NOT mean each and every student will fire all 50 rounds. There can be any number of reasons (as I implied above) why a student may not get off all 50 rounds. Running out of time, and firearm malfunction are two.

The purpose of the proficiency test is twofold...

1) For the student to demonstrate that he is knowledgable about the operation of the firearm, and is capable of handling it safely.
2) For the student to demonstrate that he can score a minimum of 175 out of a total of 250 points.

Even at the Austin DPS range, the person doing the scoring (the person next to you) is supposed to ask the shooter if he had any "holdbacks". Those are rounds that for whatever reason, were not fired. Those rounds are counted as "misses". DPS does NOT fail a prospective instructor because he did not fire all 50 rounds.

I would suggest that any instructor who failed a student that successfully demonstrated the two goals above, but did not fire all 50 rounds, would be courting issues with DPS when the student contacts them to complain about the instructor.

As an example, I was RSO for another instructor's class. One of the students decided he would use a number of his rounds to "draw a smiley face" on the head of his target. (Now before somebody claims that "Head shots are automatic disqualifiers", that is CHL urban legend.) Anyway, I considered how I would have handled this situation. The best resolution that I could come up with would be to go ahead and pass the student (assuming he got a passing score on both written and proficiency test), and send a letter to DPS explaining that although the student did get passing scores, he failed to follow instructions, and explain the situation -- thus letting DPS handle the issue as they see fit.
This was one of the scoring targets we had in class. The head shots received 3 points there were 8 of them, there were only 40 other shots accounted for - 5 pointer total of 224. shooter failed.

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