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Alright, I dont know what law or laws he was quoting but he seemed very matter of fact about all the answers so Im not going to test him. Just like the HB823 I read on the Texas site and listened to Mrs. Tripp on the TSRA website talk about I asked him about it also and he said "if I find a gun in the vehical and the owner gives me any trouble about searching Im arresting him and the judge can sort it out." I told him that nowhere in the bill does it say a bad attitude is grounds for arrest? Besides that didnt Mrs. Tripp say a seatbelt or speeding violation dosent warrent a search under HB823? He repeated his statement about the "trouble" thing and I ended the conversation, I guess its another nowhere quick topic I seem to keep running into them with the troopers lately

Ok I'll throw this in while talking to my trooper friend said he knows of this officer that pulled me over and he is a new trooper. Interesting enough he said that the DPS has the right to search any vehical once pulled over for a viloation at any time unlike a city cop which might or might not have the right to search. Which is why DPS are called to stops at times for back-up (drug, weapons search). He told me he has done the same thing to numerious people that didnt have CHL's or known weapons and what times it was fought the DPS has won every time so a CHL involved in a similar search does not matter, standard procedure! This is why drugs are found on traffic offences by DPS. He let me know if I fought this I would loose, and be possibly "tagged" by fellow DPS in the area I told him thats wrong and that cant be right in todays Texas he said that is the way it works.

Ok learned something else, I was just thinking how many people here have so many different opinions on this which should be a pretty much black and white area, like the trooper I spoke to about this he is LE not Law Interpitor a.k.a. judge. What he would arrest you for the judge might think otherwise.

Well I talked to a trooper I know and a retired Longview PD Capt. about this they both said the officer can do this and "not a good idea to pursue this any further." This "is tactics for people under suspicion with criminal records". I asked about a refuse to search and was told that will make you look guilty he might even impound the truck for a search and so on. So lesson learned if they want to search they will.

Yes llwatson said what I was wanting to ask after reading the then following replies I think I can see the troopers motive I guess, anyway at least I got it off my chest to more informed people other than familiy and friends.
Thanks.

I guess what I wanted was a "yes that is not right and report him!" or a "sorry that happened but he can legally do that, live with it!" I also want to know if this is the about the norm as it is my first encounter since having a CHL.

NO SIR, I was stating I was answering his questions but with the "double talk" after I gave him my information I was just digging a hole to no where. I was the one that shut up. I would also like to add from the begining of the stop til I left the officer was less than polite. I didnt want to tell this because I didnt want to give the wrong impression about my motives, the 20min. wait while getting searched was the motivation.

So if I get pulled over again I can refuse a search? Then what will happen I am told it will be more trouble than its worth? Also do you think I should get the troopers sergent or somebody involved even though I think he will just blow me off or what? I am not looking for trouble far from it, but when LEO crosses the line into my rights something needs to be done or said right?

Hello everybody I wish my first post could be on a lighter note but its not. I got pulled over on 259 in Longview for speeding about 3:30 pm by the dps about two weeks ago. As soon as the officer was informed I had a CHL he said "with out reaching for it where is the gun." I told him I had two pistols in a case in the back passenger side of the truck. He said would you mind exiting the vehical as I look at them, I agreed. As he walked me back to the rear of the truck he said he had to look at them for his safety??? and asked if they were loaded which I replied no sir. He walked up on the driver side in which I said its on the passenger side sir. He said that he would reach over to look, I am pulled over on a overpass on the right side but whatever. I have been sitting on an overpass bridge wall for 20mins. while he "looks at my guns" he then walks back and starts asking what am I doing with them I told him I was going to the range but was to cold out so I was going home. He then proceded to ask me where I got the guns how much they were and everytime I gave him a answer he would give me that cop double talk at which point I said this is what I am doing and just shut up he then replied are you one of those gun nuts with a straight face and I said not really. He gave me a ticket for speeding I got into my truck only to discover he searched my truck! I am feeling very violated about this in 30 years I have only been given 3 tickets for speeding nothing else. Had I not told him about the guns he would just had givin me the ticket which is why I got a CHL to avoid this. Everyone tells me to just forget about but I feel its not right! Am I the only one?