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by rbwhatever1
Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:59 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Over-policing plus justified fear of impersonators
Replies: 192
Views: 20945

Re: Over-policing plus justified fear of impersonators

How did we Americans get here in the first place where the Law has been turned upside down? I believe that if a group of citizens acted in this same manner they would be facing many charges. An officer of the Law should face the same charges. A badge does not give one the right to violate the Law. Our Constitution was written by better men and forbids it.

So how does the State have the right to do these things to the individual if the basis of Law is from the individual right of Self Defense, Liberty, and Property? It does not, unless we let it and we have done nothing to stop this perversion of Justice for decades so it has grown. I think people are waking up and are getting a bit tired of the Police State run by politicians...
by rbwhatever1
Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:25 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Over-policing plus justified fear of impersonators
Replies: 192
Views: 20945

Re: Over-policing plus justified fear of impersonators

Interesting comments and a lot of deserved emotion. 6 or 7 adult ABC agents on a stake out of a supermarket watching for underage citizens buying beer. Not a very good stake out if you ask me. I thought the cashiers were all supposed to ID the criminal citizens who buy beer, and since this girl wasnt running out of the supermarket with a bag boy chasing her, one would think she paid for the merchandise, which would have required an ID check by the cashier, and at least one of the 6 or 7 adult ABC agents should be able to deduce that no crime had been commited. Unless everyone is guilty until proven innocent. Scratch that ID check comment since you dont need one for ice cream, cookie dough or water. Not yet anyway. So, the ABC guys and gal were pumped up and ready to make two arrests and shut down an interstate alcohol smuggling gang reminescent of the prohibition era. The cashier that made the sale and the customer who bought the water. I meant beer. Oh, thats right, it was water. Wonder if those agents had tommy guns... This whole turning citizens into criminals at the drop of a pin gets confusing and hard to follow, especially when no crime has taken place and one needs to save face. So what was the probable cause? Short skirt? Tight jeans? Flip flops? Bouncy step? She looked 20? Walking from a supermarket to a car with ice cream, cookie dough and water? I meant beer. The more i think about this the more absurd it gets.
7 pairs of eyes failed to identify a 12 pack of water on a stake out. Were they hiding in the outskirts of the parking lot and came out of darkness? Were they close to the lit up entrance where they could see a 12 pack of water? Somebody needs to lose a job over this one and some agents need to be retrained on stake outs and the Constitution of the United States.
by rbwhatever1
Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:01 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Over-policing plus justified fear of impersonators
Replies: 192
Views: 20945

Re: Over-policing plus justified fear of impersonators

And that very well may be the problem. Some LEO's may assume everyone is breaking the law and every citizen is a criminal until proven innocent. Tough job for LEO's but the Fourth Amendment may have been missing here. This could have ended very badly because if that was my daughter she may very well have started shooting in a panic. All over a 12 pack of water. How silly. Seems to me that the "underage" water buying criminals acted more responsibly than the adults on this one. These young ladies processed what little information they had in a few moments of terror and made a choice to not become victims. I wish all the young ladies out there that have been raped and murdered made the same decisions as these girls. Glad nobody was killed.


Cheers

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