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The Annoyed Man wrote:

D_hardy wrote:Thanks for all the ideas.. Im thinking about a j frame but would like to still have descent firepower. Saw a 357 and man was that thing little! Im also considering that 5.11 shirt with a g27.. I wonder what the time difference is to unholster the g27 from the holster shirt versus something from the ankle. Plus the holster shirts look to be about $75 a pop and for working 50-60 hours im gonna need a few!

I'm a .45 guy, and my normal EDC is a XDm Compact carried OWB. But I do own a scandium .357, and it is my favorite fall-back gun for days when I just don't want the weight of the XDm on my belt. Keep it loaded with Hornady 125 grain Critical Defense .357 magnum ammo. Plenty of punch (1200 fps and 400 ft lb out of a 2" barrel, per Hornady), and still shootable without too much pain. Only 5 rounds in the cylinder, but it should be enough to start a prairie fire and set off all the car alarms for about a mile around. Even if you miss, if the fireball at the muzzle and the sheets of flame shooting out the sides don't scare the bad guy to death, it will scare you to death, and then the outcome won't really matter, will it?

jmra wrote:

D_hardy wrote:Thanks for all the ideas.. Im thinking about a j frame but would like to still have descent firepower. Saw a 357 and man was that thing little! Im also considering that 5.11 shirt with a g27.. I wonder what the time difference is to unholster the g27 from the holster shirt versus something from the ankle. Plus the holster shirts look to be about $75 a pop and for working 50-60 hours im gonna need a few!

I've had both the g27 and the g23. My experience has been that the 23 isn't much harder to conceal than the 27. For me the deep concealment issue with both guns is the thickness of the double stack configuration. That is why I went with the XDs for deep concealment. The 23 is my go to gun when I am able to get away with OWB.