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JP171 wrote:

alvins wrote:

Syntyr wrote:Can we start using depleted uranium bullets??? I hear they GLOW GREEN...

And we thought their wasnt anyway to dispose of our nuclear waste.we could secretly make them out of uranium and then sell them really cheaply to countries we dont like.lol

its like freon 12, it was never as bad for the enviroment and we were told. duponts patent ran out and they didnt want others making money off of it.so we now have 134a which i think is due to be replaced soon.

no 134a is not scheduled for replacement for the next 50 years when DuPont's patents run out again. R-22 is scheduled to be out of use in the next 2 years and it will be 410a both 134a and 410a have either a zero or very low as in a .o2 ozone depletion potential and the EPA has already changed the schedule set by the Montreal protocol at least 2 times. I will tell you also, unless you purchase new gauges not to hook up to a 410a unit as the ones you used for years at home may blow up in your face as the pressures are way higher.

As far as projectiles I was to the understanding that the gestapo (BATFE) had a rule against or was trying to make a rule against solid metal, so how is that going to work? is it just playing into the hands we don't want in the pie

Au Contre mon frère!
Dupont/Honeywell HFO-1234yf is already required in the EU.

HFO-1234yf is the first in a new class of refrigerants acquiring a global warming potential (GWP) rating 335 times less than that of R-134a (but still 4 times higher than the alternative substitute carbon dioxide) and an atmospheric lifetime of about 400 times shorter. It was developed to meet the European directive 2006/40/EC that went into effect in 2011 requiring that all new car platforms for sale in Europe use a refrigerant in its AC system with a GWP below 150.

In fact the French are blocking the importation of Daimler Benz products(A Class, B Class, BCom Class)into France due to their refusal to use 1234fy because of safety concerns:
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/autos/merc ... dangerous/
GM products that are assembled in North America, some of which are exported to Europe (Cadillac, Buick, Chevrolet Corvette)are utilizing 1234yf on their assembly lines to satisfy import restrictions and simplify assembly.

cb1000rider wrote:So I dug for a little bit, looking for a statement by the administration regarding the reason why and if they're promoting the use of lead free bullets.
I found no direct reference to verbiage by the administration. I'd like to see the original cite, if you guys don't mind. Anyone have it?

I did find this:
http://www.nssfblog.com/epa-considering ... ction-now/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Which was a petition from the Center for Biological Diversity. Is this what the headline refers to?

That's one avenue that the Administration is moving forward on with "green ammo" , as well as the executive orders on "Green Purchasing" to wit:
12969(Clinton era, superseded by 13148) 13423 and 13514.
All of which require that fed agencies reduce their toxic foot print in purchasing. Thus the requests for gilding metal ammo.
There are reports, that I have not been able to verify, that when U.S. forces withdraw from overseas, we'll be leaving several billion rounds of surplus ammo behind due to it's perceived toxicity as well as the lack of "end user certificates" when said ammo was shipped. This action would further reduce the future availability of surplus ammo for civilian purchase.
Along with the current purchasing by DHS, which will not be subject to surplus sales, the request for gilding metal ammo puts further strain on the ammo industry's ability to provide products for the civilian market.
I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but coupled with the last few months disclosure on this administrations activities vis-à-vis IRS, NSA, Verizon, etc. I'm much more inclined to view any activity undertaken through EO as inimical to me and mine.