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by Dadtodabone
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:17 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Supreme court DNA ruling
Replies: 26
Views: 1539

Re: Supreme court DNA ruling

TrueFlog wrote:Y'all realize this is really a moot point now, right? Thanks to Obamacare, the feds will have your DNA next time you have blood drawn for a routine cholesterol exam.

Aside from that, I'm on the fence with this ruling. In many ways, a DNA sample is not that much different from fingerprints. It's very different from drawing blood given that a swab is much less invasive and carries much less risk of cross-infection, pain, etc. What I find problematic about collecting DNA is that it's much more than just a uniquie identifier. You can't measure someone's genes from a fingerprint. A DNA sample contains vast amounts of private data that I don't want to give away. Also, fingerprinting is much more transparent since the entire process is conducted right in front of you. With a DNA swab, they have to send the sample off to a lab where they do who-knows-what with it and may potentially mix it up with someone else's sample.
That's were a verifiable chain of custody is an imperative for law enforcement. Any break in the chain should preclude the use of the tainted evidence at trial.
As Houston PD found out:
http://hpdlabinvestigation.org/reports/ ... ations.pdf
Record keeping at outside labs has to be just as meticulous, or again, the evidence would be tainted.
by Dadtodabone
Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Supreme court DNA ruling
Replies: 26
Views: 1539

Re: Supreme court DNA ruling

steveincowtown wrote:Fast forward 50 years....

"Sir I see your DNA shows that you offspring are likely to have health issues. To prevent this from happening and being a burden on our International Health Care System we are going to need to put you through the mandatory sterilization process."


I can't believe that the so called conservative Judges voted yes on this. Truly a crying shame...
I agree, this should have been a 9-0 slam dunk.
by Dadtodabone
Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:32 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Supreme court DNA ruling
Replies: 26
Views: 1539

Re: Supreme court DNA ruling

Of interest, Justice Scalia was not a member of the 5-4 majority on this ruling.
The Fourth Amendment forbids searching a person for evidence of a crime when there is no basis for believing the person is guilty of the crime or is in possession of incriminating evidence. That prohibition is categorical and without exception; it lies at the very heart of the Fourth Amendment. Whenever this Court has allowed a suspicionless search, it has insisted upon a justifying motive apart from the investigation of crime.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/35 ... s-halikias
Justice Scalia remains the only originalist on the current court.

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