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Florida Police Arrest George Zimmerman.
http://theweek.com/article/index/274816 ... ult-charge

WildBill wrote:

philip964 wrote:Good morning. Here is today's Trayvon Martin/ George Zimmerman story.

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/arch ... ouncements" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Princeton University Orchestra will have the world premier of the commissioned work "The Ballad of Trayvon Martin" tonight.

MeMelYup wrote:I'll bet Trayvon Martin didn't know who Beethoven and Dvorak were.

That's okay. I don't know who Branker is.

Helpful link:
http://www.princeton.edu/~puje/conductor.htm

philip964 wrote:http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2013/08/28/[abbreviated profanity deleted] ... -a-martyr/

Trayvon Martin is a martyr says Andrew Young former UN ambassador.

Ambassador Young is obviously suffering the onset of senile dementia.

RoyGBiv wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:I have a list of people I no longer can watch in movies because the sight of their faces causes my blood pressure to rise. Alec Balwin is on the top of the list.

Still Jane Fonda for me. Although Alex is an easily justifiable choice.

Matt Damon

Wow, Ranger School from BCT! So they've eliminated Airborne School, RIP, the 75th and BOLC? Man, that's what I call streamlined.

Bullitt wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:...Oh.. The reason I told you I was a military brat would not have to be explained if you spent any time beyond the six month boot camp. Military families movie all over the country. That was the point... Sorry it went over your head... But not real surprised.

Sorry you outed yourself as Pasadena's pogie bait, eh? Boot camp is eight weeks, not six months. You got a DD214 or not? Now quit trolling. Just stick to the subject.

A few posts back you said you were done here.

I sure did say that, but since you and SS decided to reply in continuance, here I am again. I'm prepared to end the dialog as long as you quit calling on me to answer. But you can't resist can you? Especially if you think I am not here so that it looks to the others like you have the last victorious word. Surprise, this is a discussion board. There is no victor.

Recruit/Basic Training(Boot Camp) varies between the branches of the U.S. Armed Forces. I believe the Navy and the Coast Guard process is 8 weeks and then off to school for your MOS specific training. Marine Recruit Training is 12 weeks(4 week modules X 3). The Air Force has a 63 day program so 9 weeks.
(Please take it easy on me if I get parts of this skewed Sergeant Major Marquez)
The Army's Initial Entry Training program is a horse of a different color. Basic Combat Training is 10 weeks followed by Advanced Individual Training that can last 5 to 52 weeks. Army recruits remain under a "firmer" level of military discipline during AIT than those in the other branches who have left basic for schools. The BCT/AIT are both part of Initial Entry Training. So you could say that "Boot Camp" for certain MOSs can last for 6 months or more.
The Army also has OSUT. In some MOSs, both the BCT and AIT sections of IET are performed back-to-back at the same location, with the same instructors, and the same recruits. Thus, One Station Unit Training. The Infantry MOS, 11B, consists of the usual BCT followed by five weeks of AIT, all at Fort Benning.
Other examples of MOSs that utilize OSUT are:
Cavalry Scouts 19D Fort Benning, Tank Crewmen 19K Fort Benning, Combat Engineers 12B Fort Leonard Wood, Bridge Crewmen 12C Fort Leonard Wood, Military Police 31B Fort Leonard Wood.

jimlongley wrote:And doesn't all of this racial classification that the press and others are using make obama a "white black"?

Using the press' formula Mr. Obama would be a Black-Caucasian. Paternal racial characteristics first, Mr. Zimmerman's father is white, so we have a White-Hispanic. I've heard that Mr. Zimmerman's maternal grandfather was of Native American and Black ancestry, so we potentially have a,
White-Hispanic-Black-Native American.
I am also of mixed ancestry and could identify as a Pole-Czech-Rus-Slovakian(Slavic white guy). While my children wind up as P-C-R-S-Celt-Schwaben. My first granddaughter is P-C-R-S-C-Sc-Cymric-Dane.
Of course there are controversies in some of this mix. My maternal great-great grandmother was the bride of a member of the Kuban Host, is referred to in family history as the "Beauty of the East" and was probably part of the spoils distributed during the campaigns of Caucasus Line Host against the remnants of Ottoman power around the Black Sea. So there is a pretty good chance that I could add Turkic ancestry.
There is also some name confusion during the "melting pot" of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and later Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. Polish and Lithuanian scripts were used and some of the hand written records(family bibles and Księgi metrykalne) are muddled or nonexistent. So the possibility of Baltai influence is also present.

Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder, states he has "concerns" with the Zimmerman verdict:
http://news.yahoo.com/holder--i-share-c ... 41065.html
Concern for Trayvon, Justice for Trayvon? What about Justice for: Ed, Jacqueline, Dane, Gizelle, Peter, Aurelia, Jeremiah, Marissa, Fernando, April, Angel, Shaneda, Kevin, Denise, Miguel, Jonylah, Vincent, Hadiya or any of the other over 200 murder victims in Chicago this year?
http://homicides.suntimes.com/photo-gallery/2013/

sjfcontrol wrote:How do final arguments work? I'm guessing the prosecution goes first, followed by the defense, with no follow-up?

No, the Florida Supreme Court change criminal procedure in capital cases, the prosecutors present their final arguments, the defense presents theirs and the prosecutors can rebut the defense arguments.

CSM Meza, totally credible.

While I've been watching, it seemed as though the defense was presenting their case, not the prosecution. Then I reviewed a twitter feed that included juror reactions to the testimony and evidence presented, "paying attention" 'bored" "taking notes " "furiously taking notes" "attentive" etc. and realized that I was only seeing half the trial. How are the jurors responding to the prosecutions case? Activity was very high when the ME was testifying and again during the "Hannity" interview. Virtually none when the lead investigator was on the stand.

As an aside the lead investigator was demoted to patrol on the overnight shift a few months ago. Not being cooperative?

Another aside, question for LEOs, Is this the way that prosecutors and the state regularly interact with LEOs? If yes, how do y'all stand it? If no, what does this do to cooperation in Florida law enforcement in the future?

texanjoker wrote:Tried not watching any, but did today. Having spent a lot of time in court over 20 plus years I can say that IMO Zimmerman's attorneys are doing a good job to show reasonable doubt. They were not confrontational and very methodical to get the statements they needed clarified. The officer testifying that he took Zimmerman into custody at gun point did a great job. He clearly articulated it was normal procedure, it was dark and you needed a flashlight to see. That is crucial to dispute the witnesses that claimed the deceased was on the bottom. The MMA statements were great, and the fact that witness was consistent since day one is even better.

I do wonder though, where is the uproar for the police taking Zimmerman into custody at gun point? I mean shouldn't they have known he was just a CHL holding neighborhood watch citizen and disregarded basic officer safety practices ?

philip964 wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... ma-bullied

Zimmerman's brother and family in California in hiding due to being a target. No love for Obama.

If Mr. Zimmerman is found not guilty in his trial, will the State of Florida provide some form of protection for him and his family? What about the Feds, could they petition the Marshall's Service for entry into the Witness Security Program or the like?