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nightmare69 wrote:The hells angels, Cossacks, and Bandido's all classify themselves as a MC and not a gang but we all know the truth. So what club or gang do you affiliate with?

Also the Blue Knights are the only LEO club I know of.

E.Marquez wrote: None of which is obviously relative to the OP as he has refused to state what MC he is associated with. Without that piece of info,,, there is no way to say if he is statutorily worng, or being done an injustice.

VoiceofReason wrote:

Abraham wrote:Stew,

If you want to be believed and accepted here, you'll have to work a bit harder at convincing the members you're being mistreated by LE by being more forthcoming.

If not interested in being accepted here, O.K., but the perception at this point is you are quite possibly a member of an outlaw biker gang and as such few here will provide you much sympathy or support.

If you're not part of an outlaw MC, why not provide enough information to exonerate yourself in the eyes of the members here?

So, what you are saying is that if someone is a member of an outlaw biker gang with no record, It is OK for the police to arrest them for no turn signal, search their bike, take their legal firearm, refuse to return it and have their CHL revoked?

Just asking.

Stew wrote:

EEllis wrote:

cprems wrote:Do you belong to a recognized "MC"? Did you have any patches visible that would lead the PD to believe you were?

I'm interested in your case from a purely non partisan perspective. I have friends who ride in clubs and have no association with known outlaw "clubs".

Thanks.

He has used the "lingo" that people use when trying to give the impression they belong to an "outlaw" club but denies it is such, nor will he just state the name of the club. To me it sure seems like he is either trying to give a certain impression or he is in a club, or tributary club, that could very well meet the definition of a "Gang". Heck he won't even confirm or deny that he wears a 3 patch cut. If he is playing the same game with the cops then no wonder he didn't get his gun back.

EElis,

Get off the gas why don't cha. My patch is a 3 piece patch along with every other law enforcement motorcycle club who wears a 3 piece parch but are not profiled as such so it's obviously you know nothing of the mc culture so I won't debate that with you. I don't need to state the name of my club or the name of my job or my full name on a open forum that's irrelevant. I'm simply speaking on the CHL issue and not engage in a motorcycle club debate that's for a different site.

cprems wrote:Do you belong to a recognized "MC"? Did you have any patches visible that would lead the PD to believe you were?

I'm interested in your case from a purely non partisan perspective. I have friends who ride in clubs and have no association with known outlaw "clubs".

Thanks.

dlh wrote:What is a one percent club?

dlh

RPBrown wrote:

Bigstew wrote:New user here need some advise,

I along with a few of my motorcycle club brothers have been harassed here lately. I was pulled over by 4 units who claim I didn't use my turn signal. I handed them my license, CHL and told them my weapon is locked in my saddlebag. They immediately began with the full court press of questions about me and my club affiliation and every patch on my vest. I cooperated and remained very polite still not understanding why I got pulled over. They wanted to search my cycle I said "no sir you can't as I did nothing wrong". All my information that they ran came back clean as I have never been arrested in my 42 years and I told them that. They went back and forth on the computer with their seargent who then told them to arrest me for the traffic citation! That gave them cause to mmediately tear into my saddlebags, broke them in the process and found absolutely nothing. I released my bike to my club brother who drove up in his car and I was then hauled off to jail at 10:00 pm where I sat till 6:30 am. After I finally saw the In-house judge she couldn't believe they arrested me on a turn signal ticket and immediately released me ......again I was never ever charged with anything to this day!

Now the detective is refusing to release my weapon stating he now shows me as a known associate to which I am not. I have hired a local Ft,Worth attorney to file the lawsuit and file a formal detailed complaint with internal affairs against all officers involved. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.


Ride free

I just went back and re-read your post and have the following comments
(1) Just because they arrested you still does not give them probable cause for a search without a warrant.
(2) You said you hired a Ft. Worth attorney but did not say if this was Ft. Worth PD or some of the outlying towns
(3) IMHO, the judge should have instructed them to release your weapon
(4) As many LEO's that came, it was either a very slow night or there was a problem somewhere that could have included a biker
(5) You also didn't say what club, or if it was a 3 piece patch. You asked our opinion and these would help in giving one
(6) As I stated before, I am a lifelong biker, long time CHL holder, and ride with 3 different groups including the PGR when i have time so I know a little about stereotyping which there are some on this board that do as well but it is human nature to be scared of something you know nothing about

n5wd wrote:For those of us who are ignorant about these things: What is a "cut"?

Sounds like you've done the right thing... Letting your lawyer handle it for you. You have a replacement carry weon, I'm hoping? No need to publicly answer that rhetorical question.