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by EEllis
Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:09 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

Stupid wrote:Thank you for all the good advices. I fully understand and agree. I was not asking what you would do it should have done in this situation. I know the answers already.

This is just a hypothetical situation. So would you convict the homeowner had he shot the construction workers over perceived demolition? Given the Texas law allowing using lethal force.
If it happened in this country with our legal system? Heck yeah. Texas law doesn't allow lethal force in that situation which has been the point of so many of the comments.
by EEllis
Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:47 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

Javier730 wrote: The homes were empty but just like millions of other homes in America, they could of easily been occupied.
Because occupied homes get torn down a lot? I mean vacant, trashed out, abandoned looking home sure but you really think companies would tear down a house knowing someone was inside? That they wouldn't knock on a door or check to see if there was a squatter? No offence but thats like saying that you could shoot the guy at the scrapyard if you happen to be in a car that's about to be crushed. I mean there are millions of cars that are occupied so why not one that's about to be crushed......
by EEllis
Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:10 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

Javier730 wrote:
EEllis wrote:
Javier730 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:Am I the only one that thinks tearing down your house with you still in it would be at least aggravated assault, if not attempted murder? I guess you could plop yourself down in the house with a rifle and call the police. If the backhoe starts knocking down the house with you in it, you'd seem to be justified in shooting the operator.
Somehow we are in the minority.
You may be the only one who thinks there is some real chance it could happen.
I must have a wild imagination.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/worth-co ... d=20882129" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/ ... -1.1452154" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Although rare, things like this do happen. It's not impossible. The Fort Worth incident has the city and construction company playing the blame game.

My imagination is becoming reality. Someone stop me. :roll:
Since both cases were houses that were empty I think you do have a wild imagination. Those examples just don't apply.


As an aside what is up with all the "Can't I please shoot them" threads?
by EEllis
Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:31 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

Javier730 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:Am I the only one that thinks tearing down your house with you still in it would be at least aggravated assault, if not attempted murder? I guess you could plop yourself down in the house with a rifle and call the police. If the backhoe starts knocking down the house with you in it, you'd seem to be justified in shooting the operator.
Somehow we are in the minority.
You may be the only one who thinks there is some real chance it could happen.
by EEllis
Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:04 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

SewTexas wrote:that law is referring to a kidnapping, isn't it?
No if someone started to tear your house down with heavy equipment out of the Blue, you could theoretically shoot them if there were no other way to stop them. That just isn't the case as described here.
by EEllis
Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

Stupid wrote:
jmra wrote:
Stupid wrote:
jmra wrote:Hey Stupid,

Here's my take:
If the construction company attempts to illegally destroy your home, let them and then sue their pants off. My bet is the company (regardless of hypothetical conjecture) feels they're on pretty solid legal ground if they actually roll in equipment which means they have consulted their legal representation. You should do the same before taking any deadly action.
I guess what I'm saying is don't do anything stu..., anything you might regret.

BTW, love your user name.

Of course I know what to do. :-) Just a hypothetical question as I am curious how this statue would apply.
In that case I believe some very wise people have already answered your question.
Still don't know how this law would apply. :-(
Because with the info you gave it wouldn't apply.
by EEllis
Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:08 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

Stupid wrote:
EEllis wrote:Not unless they snuck up on you and are tearing it down into middle of the night while you were sleeping.


Any case where you could get away with shooting you could easily win a legal action so why would you shoot? That would only come up when someone had lost all legal actions and at that point you couldn't get away with shooting. Suicide by cop is very uncool.

I am trying to understand when this statue comes into play and if there's any case law.
Well necessity would be a big part of it, their claims, your claims. I'm sure there is case law but normally it's narrowly viewed an since you don't want to elaborate what you seem to be asking for is impossible. Basically in any non bizarro world, no you cannot shoot some hourly wage worker and get away with it. Could you create some pretend scenario sure but real world no.
by EEllis
Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:48 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?
Replies: 74
Views: 13442

Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

Not unless they snuck up on you and are tearing it down into middle of the night while you were sleeping.


Any case where you could get away with shooting you could easily win a legal action so why would you shoot? That would only come up when someone had lost all legal actions and at that point you couldn't get away with shooting. Suicide by cop is very uncool.

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