No that isn't at all what I'm saying and I must be doing something wrong if that is what you got. I'm saying that the people who are concerned won't be converted to thinking OC is normal because, one it will be done by too small a number of people . And two by trying to normalize it you make yourself even crazier looking to those who find OC so disturbing. Personally I think just treating it as no big deal provides a much stronger message.K.Mooneyham wrote:Okay, now I've got it. You think that anyone who open carries and isn't police is just like Kory and CJ. Well, glad to know where you stand. FYI, the "shame game" isn't going to work. I've stated more than once that I have no plans to go open carrying in major urban areas because I think its unwise to do so. I've also stated that I still intend to basically cover the firearm in most general situations. YOU called anyone who will open carry fringe and a nutter, and in no instance did I ever, or have I ever, condoned the Kory and CJ mentality of yelling at people about firearms rights. Your implication that I have or will is flat wrong. I could equate you with the "Mom's Demand" group since you seem to be almost as anti as they are. Not saying it would be right to do so, but it would be equivalent.EEllis wrote:What you don't like the word fringe? Because you just proved my point. Less than 4 percent of the population total and even less who beliefs have them carrying every day day, fringe may come with some negative baggage but it's accurate by definition. I was using the term in order to make a point. It won't be mainstream to oc and trying to make it so will cause you took like a nutter. Pretend it's the same as being gay and now you will look like a homophobe as well as a gun nutter. You want to only see it from your point of view that's fine with me. I just think that doing so, while trying to effect the viewpoint of those non gun people in a positive way towards the oc of handguns handguns, is less than helpful. Know your audience. Yelling at people about how normal you are is unlikely to be effective.K.Mooneyham wrote:SNIPSo, CHLers are a "fringe group"? How many CHLers are there in Texas, about 1 million now? If I divide 1 by 28, which is the state population in millions, that gives me a bit over .035. That means that CHLers are about 3.5 percent of the population. The Supreme Court just changed how marriage is defined for about that percentage of the population. Again, "fringe group"? Maybe in the minds of "Moms Demand Disarmed Citizens" and "Bloomberg Gun Grabbers, Inc.".EEllis wrote:Lets face it CHL's are a minority, a fringe group if you will, and making a big deal about this and putting extra effort into OC makes you a minority of a fringe group.
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- Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:04 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to "desensitize" a town for Open Carry?
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Re: How to "desensitize" a town for Open Carry?
- Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:52 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to "desensitize" a town for Open Carry?
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Re: How to "desensitize" a town for Open Carry?
What you don't like the word fringe? Because you just proved my point. Less than 4 percent of the population total and even less who beliefs have them carrying every day day, fringe may come with some negative baggage but it's accurate by definition. I was using the term in order to make a point. It won't be mainstream to oc and trying to make it so will cause you took like a nutter. Pretend it's the same as being gay and now you will look like a homophobe as well as a gun nutter. You want to only see it from your point of view that's fine with me. I just think that doing so, while trying to effect the viewpoint of those non gun people in a positive way towards the oc of handguns handguns, is less than helpful. Know your audience. Yelling at people about how normal you are is unlikely to be effective.K.Mooneyham wrote:SNIPSo, CHLers are a "fringe group"? How many CHLers are there in Texas, about 1 million now? If I divide 1 by 28, which is the state population in millions, that gives me a bit over .035. That means that CHLers are about 3.5 percent of the population. The Supreme Court just changed how marriage is defined for about that percentage of the population. Again, "fringe group"? Maybe in the minds of "Moms Demand Disarmed Citizens" and "Bloomberg Gun Grabbers, Inc.".EEllis wrote:Lets face it CHL's are a minority, a fringe group if you will, and making a big deal about this and putting extra effort into OC makes you a minority of a fringe group.
- Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:48 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: How to "desensitize" a town for Open Carry?
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Re: How to "desensitize" a town for Open Carry?
I think the idea of trying to "desensitize" is a bad one. Heck that is what OCT thinks they are doing. If you want to make a political statement then it isn't necessary and if you're not you should cover up if you are that concerned. Lets face it CHL's are a minority, a fringe group if you will, and making a big deal about this and putting extra effort into OC makes you a minority of a fringe group. You will come off as nutty to anyone not into guns. Even trying to show people how "normal" you are just emphasizes that you are not normal. Personally just doing your thing and treating it as a non issue is the best way to make it a non issue.