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by txglock21
Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Greg Abbott and OC
Replies: 198
Views: 32228

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Sorry to hijack this thread, but the last line of the article mentions a proposed bill to make the last weekend of August a tax free weekend on firearms and hunting equipment. :clapping: :drool: I see long lines at the gun counters if passed.
by txglock21
Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:55 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Greg Abbott and OC
Replies: 198
Views: 32228

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

mojo84 wrote:
txglock21 wrote:
Dragonfighter wrote:
srothstein wrote:
Charlies.Contingency wrote:I'm talking about the barring of CHL holders.
This is actually easy to explain. If it is my property, it is mine and I get to decide what I want on it or not. I do not have to explain to anyone why I want to bar CHLs, just the mere fact that it is my right to control my property. This is the same as the state not asking you why you want to carry a gun, just the mere fact that it is your right.

As long as we have private property and property rights, we will need to allow business owners to control their property. And yes, I do have problems with many of our zoning laws that already do infringe on that right.
And THAT is the ONLY argument that can be made, and I agree if there's limited access (controlled entry, non-commercial property). But when you allow anybody and everybody to enter and exit your "private property" with absolutely no access control (read as: any thug that wants to come in, can) then THOSE types of public "private property" should have there ability to forbid the law abiding access curtailed.

Yes, I know I am in the minority, but that's the way I see it.
:iagree: You may be in the minority, but I'm right there with you. To me, there is a BIG difference between "private property" and private property open to the public, ie. movie theaters, stores, etc...
Just don't enter private property if you don't like their rules. Your rights and theirs are then respected.
I don't like it when someone tells me I can't carry on their property either. Therefore, I don't go.
I hear what you are saying and I do respect their rules even if I don't agree with them. In my two years of CHL carrying I have only had to do the "walk of shame" once.
by txglock21
Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:48 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Greg Abbott and OC
Replies: 198
Views: 32228

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Dragonfighter wrote:
srothstein wrote:
Charlies.Contingency wrote:I'm talking about the barring of CHL holders.
This is actually easy to explain. If it is my property, it is mine and I get to decide what I want on it or not. I do not have to explain to anyone why I want to bar CHLs, just the mere fact that it is my right to control my property. This is the same as the state not asking you why you want to carry a gun, just the mere fact that it is your right.

As long as we have private property and property rights, we will need to allow business owners to control their property. And yes, I do have problems with many of our zoning laws that already do infringe on that right.
And THAT is the ONLY argument that can be made, and I agree if there's limited access (controlled entry, non-commercial property). But when you allow anybody and everybody to enter and exit your "private property" with absolutely no access control (read as: any thug that wants to come in, can) then THOSE types of public "private property" should have there ability to forbid the law abiding access curtailed.

Yes, I know I am in the minority, but that's the way I see it.
:iagree: You may be in the minority, but I'm right there with you. To me, there is a BIG difference between "private property" and private property open to the public, ie. movie theaters, stores, etc...

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