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by nightmare69
Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:10 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
Replies: 213
Views: 74979

Re: Another casualty of Open Carry

I was watching YouTube and saw a view videos of OCT Grishim stating before Smith County Commissioners Court that his group was responsible for OC passing this season, LOL! They failed the last two sessions and their two OC bills this session were DOA.
by nightmare69
Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
Replies: 213
Views: 74979

Re: Another casualty of Open Carry

flintknapper wrote:Aother casualty of Open Carry
post by LTUME1978 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:49 am
I never gave much though to the "open carry" thing until yesterday afternoon. Got an email from work telling us that not only are 30.07 signs going up over the weekend on our office building but 30.06 as well.
So without having contacted your resources at work to inquire about their decision, how do you know that CC has become a "casualty" owing to OC?

What was the policy concerning handguns BEFORE OC? Did your company expressly allow handguns CC'd, or were they just like a LOT of companies and simply didn't give much thought to it? Most companies....whether posted or not, still have/had policies (in employee handbooks) prohibiting weapons (to include handguns). If that was the case it might be inaccurate to claim that OC caused the demise of CC.

I will not argue that OC has caused many businesses to now decide what their position will be with regards to allowing or disallowing handguns (regardless the mode of carry). I think to some degree that is what we are seeing.

You do realize that your company can grant individuals 'permission' to carry on the premises, exclusive of the signs?

IF their posture was to allow CC before, then I wouldn't think you'd have any problem getting permission.
What makes this even more frustrating is I have yet to see a single open carry. I hope the folks that made such a big deal out of open carry are happy because it is costing more than a few of us our right to carry concealed and protect ourselves in many places.
OC is a clear advancement. And a quick correction...you do not have any "right" to carry openly or concealed, else we would not need a license to do it. We effectively have state issued 'permission', subject to many regulations and conditions.
And to the open carry folks, no, getting a new job is not an option unless you will make me whole financially. I am 60 and 5 years away from retirement. I will adamently oppose anything that comes out of the OCT group/organization going forward and will write my legislators stating that. Wish this open carry thing had never happened. Makes me wonder if the OCT folks are antigun wolves in sheep's clothing.
^^^^^^^^^^ Agreed for the most part. If you could even find another (similar) job at your/our age....count yourself lucky and that is not something anyone wants you to be up against. I suggest you inquire of the administration at your work, what their position is, why the decision was made and IF there will be exceptions made for certain employees.

As for OCT or certain other groups, I do not disagree with all they have tried to achieve, I just disagree with almost EVERY tactic they've used to try to get there! But lets be VERY careful not to lump the "open carry folks" as you call them....in with groups like OCT and others, we don't deserve that association or your ire.

There is no denying the fact that since OC went into effect some businesses who were once open to CC have decided to post both signs prohibiting LTC holders from being armed all together.
by nightmare69
Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:25 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Another casualty of Open Carry
Replies: 213
Views: 74979

Re: Another casualty of Open Carry

Just this morning I received 4 notifications from texas3006 of new postings in my town. One was just 30.07 and the other three were businesses posting both 30.06 and 30.07.

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