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cyphertext wrote: I also bet that with accessories, they don't have them "on-hand", but they are in-stock with a distributor that they use, and ship from the distributor, not from their store front... pretty common with small businesses so that they don't have a lot of cash tied up in inventory.

Your definition for what qualifies as “In Stock” differs broadly from mine also. Same question for you, chief - that products shown as “In Stock” that are in reality not even in inventory, charging the customer well before something ships even though there is no written notification of that as being a condition for completion of the transaction and slow shipping are acceptable practices to be expected and have to be lived with across the spectrum of online firearm merchants, or specifically Grabagun?

TVGuy wrote: Firearm or accessories, doesn't really make a difference. Probably shouldn't say in stock, but shipping 3 days after a card is charged isn't that big of a deal.

Interesting - your definition for what “In Stock” means must be different from mine – to me it means inside the building, already in inventory, at the ready to be packed and shipped out – not having the customer wait while it’s being surreptitiously ordered from Timbuktu. So, you’re saying that products shown as “In Stock” that are in reality not even in inventory, charging the customer well before something ships even though there is no written notification of that as being a condition for completion of the transaction and slow shipping are acceptable practices to be expected and have to be lived with across the spectrum of online firearm merchants, or specifically Grabagun?

TVGuy wrote:I think many of their guns are ordered from the distributor when purchased through them, hence you being charged a couple of days before it ships to you. I don't have an issue with that, especially for the prices they offer. Many of my in-person LGS purchases have been that way.

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Uhh - I'm not sure what you read or what you thought you read, but that's not what I wrote about - it was 20 bucks worth - two, zero - of accessories, was not a firearm. The stuff was indicated as in stock, there was no having to special order, there was no requirement of any up-front payment as a prerequisite to the transaction. Messing around with the card like they did is simply bad business and shady.

As for the fraudulent charge, I'd bet that's a coincidence.

Your opinion - and you're certainly welcome to it.

My experience with them stunk on ice - all over 20 bucks worth of crap. Placed an order online, then 3 days later they charged my card, 5 days after that they finally shipped. That's not cool - okay, so they could be slow and all that, but don't be charging my card until it ships. But the kicker is this, the same exact day they charged my card, persons unknown at the other end of the state in south Texas also dinged my card, racking up nearly $300 bucks worth in multiple purchases. That's either one heck of a coincidence, there was a rat working there, or else their system is STILL being hacked. If you check around the 'net for info, they had a hack several years back that picked off card info. How well that got fixed or re-secured is an unknown. But I do know I'm not dealing with them again, not unless I happen to physically be in their store - and pay in cash.