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by K.Mooneyham
Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:51 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 62130

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

Does anyone know if it is legal to "produce" (draw/point, but not actually use) the firearm, to create apprehension of its use if necessary, in the State of Florida?
by K.Mooneyham
Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 62130

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

mojo84 wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:37 pm
dlh wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:54 pm Not familiar with Florida law. Isn't there a grand jury in any of this? And, of course, I understand a prosecutor can "indict a ham sandwich."
He has been charged.
http://www.tampabay.com/florida-parking ... nslaughter


This does not appear to be a sickly old man that some seem to want to think he is.

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Mojo84, somehow the stories that went around made him seem like an elderly man with some sort of physical ailments or disabilities. Now, maybe that guy does have disabilities of some sort, but no, he is certainly NOT elderly.
by K.Mooneyham
Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:58 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 62130

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

mojo84 wrote: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:31 pm
K.Mooneyham wrote: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:07 pm DISCLAIMER: I DON'T THINK THE SHOOTER IS THE BEST GUY ON EARTH! (some acted as if I thought that elsewhere on the 'Net). :confused5 :crazy:

And, I wouldn't have done what the shooter did in confronting the people parking illegally. Not my business, I leave that sort of enforcement up to the police who get paid to do that. However, after having a discussion on another site regarding this story, a lot of folks seem to not understand escalation/deescalation, but they do seem to think it's okay to lay hands on due to verbal provocation alone. Who knows, maybe in Florida that's okay? I just know it's not here in Texas, per PC 9.31. That said, I still do my best not talk trash to folks.

If the shooter had a history of doing that sort of thing, and threatened them in the process, why did no one ever call the police on him? Or did they? If they did, what was the result of those calls?
I have not seen anyone say it was ok to push the guy. My contention is that it is not acceptable or legal to shoot someone over being pushed if the attack was not continuing. Shooting someone out of retaliation is not acceptable.
Mojo84, my comment wasn't directed at you or anyone else here on the Forum. My conversation on the subject happened elsewhere. I put that in the top statement, but I guess I could have done more to make it clear. The folks on here seem to have a much better grasp on the subject, even if disagreeing with each other, than some others out across the Internet. I guess I shouldn't have interjected that into the topic already being discussed as it caused some confusion. My apologies.
by K.Mooneyham
Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 62130

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

DISCLAIMER: I DON'T THINK THE SHOOTER IS THE BEST GUY ON EARTH! (some acted as if I thought that elsewhere on the 'Net). :confused5 :crazy:

And, I wouldn't have done what the shooter did in confronting the people parking illegally. Not my business, I leave that sort of enforcement up to the police who get paid to do that. However, after having a discussion on another site regarding this story, a lot of folks seem to not understand escalation/deescalation, but they do seem to think it's okay to lay hands on due to verbal provocation alone. Who knows, maybe in Florida that's okay? I just know it's not here in Texas, per PC 9.31. That said, I still do my best not talk trash to folks.

If the shooter had a history of doing that sort of thing, and threatened them in the process, why did no one ever call the police on him? Or did they? If they did, what was the result of those calls?

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