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K.Mooneyham

As I'm sure I said somewhere earlier in this topic, I sure hope that the FWPD is either reviewing or has reviewed their procedures for handling calls of this sort. And from that review, I hope they are working out better training methods. Obviously, not every situation is cut-and-dried with a verifiable violent offender being the only person around when law enforcement arrives at a call.

K.Mooneyham

Diesel42 wrote:Thank you Drjoker.
With respect to our Forum Rules, I am sincerely concerned with the behavior of the Fort Worth Police Department. The leadership there is releasing nothing because this case "may be litigated". I don't trust the department and I don't want them anywhere near me or my property. My neighbors here in Woodhaven feel as I do. I feel terrible that all my cultural training to respect LEOs has been thrown out the window because the Police Chief is not leading the department in a constructive manner. I have suggested a third party review using the DPS and his response to me was condesending. I was informed that the department will review the case, the Grand Jury will review the case and the FBI will review the case. I'm sorry, I'm not buying the Chief's assurances.

drjoker wrote:
rbwhatever1 wrote:Stupid avoidable tragedy. Police Officers are paid to put their lives on the line. Not the lives of Citizens. It's a higher calling of Duty. Sacrifice. Honor. Courage. I see the opposite here. An American Citizen gunned down because a Police Officer refused to put his life on the line and protect the very citizens he is entrusted to protect and serve.
The fact of the matter is, that this is a case of mistaken identity, HOWEVER, if the tables were turned and the old man shot the cop, I seriously doubt that the old man would be out on "administrative PAID leave." He'd probably be sitting in jail pending payment of bail, if he can afford it. This is NOT liberty. Liberty is when the law applies equally to all citizens, cops or not. Being in the government doesn't give you special powers over others because it is a government BY THE PEOPLE and FOR THE PEOPLE, so if anything, the power of government should be less than that of the people.

Sadly, too many cops think that everyone else should "Obey my authority!" (or else suffer a violent end).

P.S. the take away message is this: ALWAYS treat every interaction with LEO with kid gloves, record video, audio, and post online immediately so that it couldn't be deleted off your phone later. Remember, cops are people too, some are good and some are bad. Be careful out there....

P.P.S. Here's some fun footage of a cop who shoots an unarmed woman dead for rolling up her windows and driving away because she wouldn't obey his verbal orders to stop her car. He lies and claims that she dragged him with her car. However, an eyewitness saw the officer shooting the woman once after she drove away. Then, to cover up his crime, he chases after the car on foot as it slows down (woman was shot) and then fires 5 more times to make sure the woman is dead (so she can't tell her side of the story). http://youtu.be/BSPhC916GQM

The husband of the slain woman then "dies of natural causes" after he files a $5.3 million lawsuit against the police. Guess who ruled that it was "natural causes"? Police investigators! At the very least, another police department or the FBI should investigate it or internal affairs should investigate it. Instead, the wolves are telling the sheep, "it wasn't me." http://youtu.be/V7zYqCvLbWQ

Police officers should all be elected officials. We should all push for that. That's the only way to weed out rogue cops that I can see.

Here are some cops who beat a man LYING ON THE GROUND to death. Witnesses had it all on video. Cops confiscated the video.
http://youtu.be/7taxYcpEfX4

That was in my email to the Mayor, a suggestion that the Rangers do the investigation. They have as good a reputation for law enforcement as you will find in this state. Obviously, I never heard anything back from the Mayor's office. This story REALLY has me thinking about going to a big-box improvement store and purchasing motion sensor floodlights.

K.Mooneyham

As I have stated before, I am not and have never been an LEO. However, I do question the wisdom of whoever sent two inexperienced officers of the law into a situation where violence was distinctly possible. And I know that some of you will tell me that any police work can turn violent at any moment and I acknowledge that possibility; however, it seems to me that a burglary, where the suspect could easily be armed, would be a situation where that potential was a bit higher ALREADY. Thus, it would have seemed IMHO, that at least ONE more experienced officer should have been dispatched to that call ALONG WITH a less experienced officer, so the less experienced officer could be backup and GAIN experience. As johncanfield alluded to, there is such a concept as the "accident chain"; break any link and the chain is gone, the accident will not occur. I know LEOs get a LOT of training to deal with all sorts of situations, but nothing beats good, old-fashioned experience to temper that training, and perhaps recognize some of those links in an accident chain BEFORE the accident takes place.

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