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I watched several live cams of Ukrainian cities for the last hour or so. It's after 8 a.m. there. Only one had sound, one of Kyiv (Kiev) and I could hear some booms off in the distance. Didn't quite have the rumble of artillery, but could have been rockets. However, all of the three I watched the longest, including that Kyiv cam as well as one in Kharkiv and Zaporozhzhia (in the southeast nearer the breakaway areas), the people there just seemed to be going about their day. I remember video of Sarajevo many years ago, when they were under heavy fire from the Bosnian Serbs, and those folks were NOT going about their daily routines. I'm NOT disputing that Putin's forces have invaded. However, the mass news media has made it sound like he's carpet bombing Ukrainian cities, but I don't see that in the live feeds I was watching.

I keep telling people to go watch an old 90s movie called "Wag The Dog". One of the rare instances when Hollywood let the cat out of the bag.

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The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:18 am

And by the way, this would be the same quisling Germany that hasn’t ever spent the 2% of GDP on national defense, which is the minimum amount required of member nations by the NATO charter. Why should they? They’ve got tens of thousands of American troops covering their worthless butts.

See, now there is the exact reason why I don't want even one young American to die fighting in/for Ukraine. Those bums in Europe have been resting on OUR laurels for a LONG time. They've used us to cover a lot of their defense so they could spend the money on social(ist) programs. I mean, how much money did they spend on all those precious "migrants", the same ones who came to Europe to commit crime, after crime, after crime against European citizens? And how did the "leadership" there get people to go along with all of that? By handing out largesse, aka "free stuff", basically subsidized by the US taxpayers. It's all been done here, too, but we have the 2nd Amendment, and I believe that has helped shape some resistance in this nation. The 2nd is about a lot more than just guns.

Both the USA and the Europeans are walking on the same road...the Europeans are further down that road, and just about ready to fall off the cliff at the end. I sure hope enough Americans will take that as a sign and turn around before we go over that cliff, too.