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by The_Busy_Mom
Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:37 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB47: Reduction of Class Hours for Initial CHL
Replies: 55
Views: 7510

Re: HB47: Reduction of Class Hours for Initial CHL

TrueFlog wrote:
RX8er wrote:
The_Busy_Mom wrote:I wish there was a button for "Instructor Applicant" who supports the bill, as that would be me. Texans are an adapting people - Instructors will find a way to keep their income while keeping classes 4-6 hours. I know I already have some ideas how I could make this work for me!

:txflag: TBM

This just means that you should be able to teach two classes a day instead of just one. Wooohoooo, more money!!! :crazy:
Not necessarily. If the class is only half as long, then it should only cost half as much. The net gain is zero. Regardless, I'm not opposed to instructors making a little extra money if it means the applicants spend less time and money on the class.
RX8er was saying this tongue-in-cheek. I don't believe $100 (what I paid for my class) is the right price. With that said, however, the $100 covered class time, range fees, and photos. So I predict either one of two things will happen if mandatory hours are reduced:
1. Class cost will come down, but not drastically. Maybe the average cost will be about $80 for everything (class time, range fees)
2. Class cost will come down dramatically, let's say $50 or so, but applicants will have to pay the range directly for range fees. And then the hairy part will be if ranges increase the cost for fees. That would be out of instructor control, or negotiated by instructor.
by The_Busy_Mom
Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:18 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB47: Reduction of Class Hours for Initial CHL
Replies: 55
Views: 7510

Re: HB47: Reduction of Class Hours for Initial CHL

2firfun50 wrote:
Seabear wrote:I'm in the minority here I guess.

It's not a price thing, I would likely charge the same or close to the same no matter the length of the class.

My concern is that I teach a VERY thorough class. I cover WAY more than what is on the test. I don't let the class wonder off topic, and I feel like I have to haul butt to get done in time to go to the range. Depending on class size and the shooting ability of the average student I tend to spend 8.5-9 hours on class time. Once I get on the range, if I determine someone BSed about their ability, we may spend longer on the range.

I have NEVER gone less than 10 hours total, so I can't imagine doing it in 4 hours.

If it went to 4, I guess I would have to just teach the test like some do now, and skip safety, NVDR, and maybe even all the scenarios that my students find extremely valuable.
If the state ever gets around to me and I get my CHL instructor certificate, my class will take as long as Seabear's. After seeing all the noobs at the range and at the gun counters, I'll be doing a disservice by just teaching the test. Who knows, I might even be able to provide an NRA Home Firearms safety course certificate.
I don't want to come across as flippant, but the CHL class is not about teaching people how to use firearms. As an instructor (I am not one currently, but will be eventually, and have spoken with many) you have the right, and maybe even the responsibility, to say "You don't have enough firearm skills right now. Take a basic pistol class, come back and see me, and I'll qualify you under the fee you've already paid." This is where business saavy CHL instructors can see potential in the basic pistol class/CHL class combo. I've already started thinking about how to structure classes so that I am serving those who need basic handgun instruction separately from those who need CHL education.

:txflag: TBM
by The_Busy_Mom
Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:03 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB47: Reduction of Class Hours for Initial CHL
Replies: 55
Views: 7510

Re: HB47: Reduction of Class Hours for Initial CHL

I wish there was a button for "Instructor Applicant" who supports the bill, as that would be me. Texans are an adapting people - Instructors will find a way to keep their income while keeping classes 4-6 hours. I know I already have some ideas how I could make this work for me!

:txflag: TBM

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