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XtremeDuty.45 wrote:
Thanks for the lesson but the additional task takes place prior to the weapon being drawn. Once the lock is depressed you pull the gun and then you can release the lock and your trigger finger is free to go wherever you want it to.

I perceive a major problem with developing a motor skill that entails moving or pushing with the trigger finger anywhere near the holster and trigger while away from an identified target. Keep using that Serpa holster and you may truly learn your lesson the hard way, as other have done before.

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:I am just trying to give the OP an additional option to a holster.

The best that can be done with this option is to hand off the Serpa holster to a road repair crew so they can use it as pothole filler.

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:Bottom line the Serpa is a GREAT retention holster. It works as designed and as with ANY retention holster all it takes is a little practice and you will NOT HAVE ANY problems with it.

YOMD (Your Opinion May Differ)

Whether we recognize it or not, there are inherent risks associated with drawing and holstering loaded handguns, even with the best equipment and training. Using substandard equipment such as a Serpa holster, and its associated motor skills, adds unnecessary and avoidable risk.

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:

yerasimos,

you are correct you can have an AD/ND with the Serpa and EVERY other holster out there. All it takes is a little slip. When you draw do you draw with your trigger finger on the grip? If not then you can also have an AD/ND again all it takes is a little slip. Have you ever used a Serpa? If you have then you know that your trigger finger is not on the trigger but where it is taught to be placed (above the trigger well on slide/frame) when not shooting.

the Serpa isa great holster IMO. A little practice and discipline and you will not have any problems with it. That goes for EVERY holster and gun!

No, not all holsters or guns are created equal. Some are inherently problematic, and the Serpa falls into this category.

While using the Serpa holster, the trigger finger is given an additional task besides: 1. staying in register/motionless alongside the frame; and 2. pressing the trigger when the handgun is aimed/indexed upon an identified target. This additional task has the trigger finger flexing/pushing inward in the general vicinity of the trigger as well as the part of the frame immediately above it. If the Serpa holster has any serious retention capability, I am certain whatever trigger finger pressure that is required to disengage its retention is more forceful than any accidental "little slip".

When using a holster with retention features that are not manipulated with the trigger finger, or a holster without retention features, the trigger finger should remain essentially straight and motionless until a target has been identified, the handgun is aimed/indexed and there is a conscious decision to shoot. The trigger finger should not be pressing or bending under any other circumstances, and there is no reason for a "little slip" when there are no net forces upon the finger. If a user feels his trigger finger bending when drawing or (especially) reholstering, that should be a clear signal to stop moving the handgun and ensure the finger is in register and clear of the trigger. Simple, unambigous, and superior to the Serpa.

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XtremeDuty.45 wrote:Why a no on the Serpa?

I have one for my 1911 and I absolutely love it! I have yet to draw and putmy finger on the trigger. The release it set perfect to when you draw your finger is resting on the slide and frame as its supposed to. It really is a GREAT holster.

If you want to continue using your Serpa with your gun, carry on.

However, enough end-users and respected trainers have convinced me they are not a good choice.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=988087

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/sho ... p?t=393441

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulle ... 2?p=818630

http://policelink.monster.com/topics/38 ... adly/posts

I do not believe it is a wise practice for the trigger finger to be pressing or flexing at all--- aside from whatever nominal pressure is used to keep said finger in register away from the trigger---until the handgun is aimed or indexed upon an identified target. Anything else is increasing the risk for an AD/ND or adds an extra steering force upon the frame that makes it unnecessarily more difficult to keep it on target. Using the Serpa is contrary to this theme.