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by yerasimos
Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:55 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: High end 1911 debate...
Replies: 48
Views: 6816

Re: High end 1911 debate...

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:Its about feel, reliability, accuracy... its about alot of stuff. High Ends are built better. They have more attention to detail put into them.
For me, when it comes to electronics and guns I believe you get what you pay for. And when I am putting my life and others lives behind a weapon I want to get the best one I can.
Fair enough. I hope you find what you are looking for. Let us know what you get. :cool: :fire
by yerasimos
Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: High end 1911 debate...
Replies: 48
Views: 6816

Re: High end 1911 debate...

WildBill wrote:
yerasimos wrote:I have to enquire about the purpose behind deliberately spending $2000 or more on a firearm that fires the same ammunition as the handguns one already possesses, and has the same manual of arms as at least one of them.
Not all decisions are rational or logical. For most gun enthusiasts the decision to purchase a high end 1911 is a simple two part question. Do I really want it? Can I afford it?
It is good that this has been articulated. If one is making an emotionally-driven purchase, one should be aware of it, without their thinking clouded by bogus or defective rationalizations.
WildBill wrote:
yerasimos wrote:For me, I would have to have good answers to these questions before I spent all that money on a relatively illiquid investment.
For me, I don't consider buying [most] guns to be an investment. There are better ways to invest your money.

I used the word "investment" to take into account the possible future need or desire to sell what one purchased earlier.

I generally agree with you in not considering guns to be investments. Over the past couple years and going forward, whatever guns I buy, I buy to keep, not to sell them later at low-ball prices. But over the past year or so, those who panic-purchased black rifles and high-capacity magazines at top-dollar prices, while their 401(k) accounts and/or home values were cratering, may have been thinking differently at the time. There exists a continuum, or gradient, between "investment" and "speculation", not a clear distinction.
by yerasimos
Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:06 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: High end 1911 debate...
Replies: 48
Views: 6816

Re: High end 1911 debate...

I have to enquire about the purpose behind deliberately spending $2000 or more on a firearm that fires the same ammunition as the handguns one already possesses, and has the same manual of arms as at least one of them.

Is this supposed to be a future heirloom, a safe queen, something super accurate, an inflation hedge . . . or just an addition to the collection?

What will this $2000 handgun accomplish that one's other handguns cannot accomplish?

Can one acquire the same functionality with his other handguns by way of a competent gunsmith, or changing a few additional components, or spending the time and/or money on additional practice ammunition, a training course, solo practice at the range, etc?

For me, I would have to have good answers to these questions before I spent all that money on a relatively illiquid investment.

IIRC, Kimberly Munley and Mark Todd used 9mm Berettas to stop the homicidal Major Hasan Nidal at Fort Hood. I would not be surprised if these were factory-spec, department-issued weapons that cost no more than ~$600 each.

My opinion---take it or leave it.

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