How the post "should" read and how it does read is based on the info at hand when posted and based on news reports at the time. Was it human error, most likely. Was it negligence, most likely. Will it go to court, possibly. Humans make mistakes, plain and simple. I leave the negligence part to the lawyers.JerryK wrote:That was my point!!!Even if the shotgun did go off when dropped, you could easily argue that it was negligent for it to even be loaded.
It was also negligent to pick up any gun and not verify it was unloaded prior to handling it. There is a reason they are referred to as ND's and not AD's. I actually had an AD one time when I was at the range and had the gun pointed down range and it went off (by my pulling the go button) but my brain did not make that decision right then. That was an AD, because I did not 'command' the gun to be fired at that point.
Most all discharges are referred to as ND because there was negligence involved and not unloading before a gun show.
Some people are offended by the word negligence because it infers they did something wrong where as the word accidental is a nicer word because it does not place blame. This is the society we live in, where as people are not responsible for their actions, and we have changed our wording to make people feel better about themselves!!!
Another problem with this thread is in the title. Shooting at .... The title infers someone intended to shoot someone else at a gun show. It does not describe the story accurately. It should read, ND at a Wichita Falls gun show
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- Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:25 pm
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True. There are stupid people. No matter what we do though there will always be something unexpected that happens.JerryK wrote:To err is human. To have a ND is stupid!!!
I went to the show today. It was so empty I don't see how anyone could have been hit even with a negligent discharge. Our local gun show has really gone down hill lately.
- Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:40 am
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To err is human.
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Shooting at Wichita Falls Gun Show
Today before the gun show opened a shooting occurred at the Wichita Falls gun show as a vendor shotgun went off injuring 3 people with birdshot. Apparently not life threatening, thankfully. This is the gun show that had posted 30.06 and 30.07 signs earlier this year and they were removed after my emails to the city manager.
I am glad that nobody was seriously hurt and that the incident did not involve a LTC holder. I don't know what the vendor's response is. I also don't know who checks the vendors guns but they always seem to be safety tied.
I am glad that nobody was seriously hurt and that the incident did not involve a LTC holder. I don't know what the vendor's response is. I also don't know who checks the vendors guns but they always seem to be safety tied.