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by rotor
Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:37 pm
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: CHL Instructor Shoots Aggressor at Gas Station
Replies: 99
Views: 23791

Re: CHL Instructor Shoots Aggressor at Gas Station

Solaris wrote:One point I have not seen mentioned. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. The shooter only had a gun. He did not appear to have any other less lethal options. Cops carry batons, pepper spray, taser, flashlight, kubaton, etc., not for the added weight, but to have more options other than kill or be killed.

Less lethal tools, something to think about having in addition to your gun.

And yes I have critiqued the shooters tactics, but I have tremendous sympathy for him. It was not his fight, he got involved and now he owns it, and when it went really bad, NOBODY else was there help him. NOBODY. The guy was pushing him, and NOBODY else was there to help stop the guy - tackle, clunk him on head with bottle, broom to face, push him over (he was drunk), whatever. So I feel for him on that. As they say, no good deed goes unpunished.
Time to end this post don't you think? People have expressed their opinion and minds are not being changed. I agree with the law authorities on this. And true, nobody else was there to help quell things and if there was someone else the advice you gave was to not get involved. I certainly wouldn't tackle that big guy.
by rotor
Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:46 am
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: CHL Instructor Shoots Aggressor at Gas Station
Replies: 99
Views: 23791

Re: CHL Instructor Shoots Aggressor at Gas Station

Solaris wrote:I find it interesting we can all watch the same video and see different things.

As I said, I find it inconceivable one could justify killing an unarmed man who pushed you a couple of times. I have been pushed a few times in my life, even had punches thrown at me, never once did I consider killing the aggressor over it. I can think of 87 ways to de-escalate that situation without going to my gun, the simplest being just walk out of the store and go home instead of drawing.

Interesting though that some of you do think was justified. I disagree, but do not disrespect your opinion.
It is an interesting phenomena that so many people came away with different feelings. I reviewed the video and thought the shooting was justified. I pictured myself being pushed into a corner which there was no backing out of by this big guy, obviously on something as he had no fear of a man with an openly carried gun, and having him beat the dickens out of me for no apparent reason. Would I consider my life in danger? Yes! A guy who brings his fist to a gun fight has something seriously wrong with him. The big guy also followed the small guy back into the store, cornered him and was probably going to seriously bash him, at least it so appeared. Perhaps earlier the shooter could have gotten away but at the point he fired? Doesn't look like he could and I wouldn't want to take a beating from the big guy.

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