To beat this to death I admit I am not as knowledgeable as the rest on this. I took my info from Wikipedia.
Dichlorodifluoromethane (R-12), is a colorless gas, and usually sold under the brand name Freon-12, is a chlorofluorocarbon halomethane (CFC), used as a refrigerant and aerosol spray propellant. Complying with the Montreal Protocol, its manufacture was banned in the United States along with many other countries in 1996 due to concerns about damage to the ozone layer.[2] It is soluble in many organic solvents. Dichlorodifluoromethane was also the main component of Silly String. R-12 cylinders are colored white.
So I am bad! Let's go back to light bulbs.
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- Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:43 pm
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- Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:09 pm
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Many companies came out with retrofits but none of them were as good as R12. I believe R12 used a lower pressure compressor and without changing the compressor the substitute refrigerants were never as good as R12. A non efficient air conditioner just doesn't make it in Texas. My point though is that government passes laws which are very expensive to comply with and 10 feet south of the border are ignored. So Americans get a new tax that really does nothing for the environment. I am sure the car companies were thrilled to sell you a new car with R134 refrigerant. And if you depended on an inexpensive asthma inhaler you too were hurt as these too were phased out.03Lightningrocks wrote:Not true. Google replacement freon for R12 and you will discover there were many options. The drop in refrigerant was available within a few months of R12 being outlawed. Retrofit kits were/are inexpensive and were/are still available. Regardless, I agree with the spirit of your post.rotor wrote:......"Abraham".........There were never successful retrofits for R12 cars so if you wanted an air conditioned car in Texas you had to buy a new one...."Abraham"
- Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:16 am
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Freon R12 was banned I believe in 1995. What facts should I check? Virtually every car air conditioner used R12 prior to the ban. The ban was to "protect the ozone layer" You could go to Mexico and get R12 at any time so I guess we only protected the ozone layer across the US. There were never successful retrofits for R12 cars so if you wanted an air conditioned car in Texas you had to buy a new one. Same thing is happening now with CO2 tax but countries like China can dump as much as they want into the atmosphere.
- Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:17 pm
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I have decided that I am going to ask for a government ban on 45 acp so that I don't have to keep hearing how great the 1911 is. I am going to limit everyone to .380 acp kind of like they do in Europe. And since there is never any .380 available I am going to make a ton of money selling it. Think of how much more efficient a .380 is vs a 45 and how much less lead we put into the environment. This should fly don't you agree?
Please someone save us from big government. Edward Snowden is starting to become my hero.
Please someone save us from big government. Edward Snowden is starting to become my hero.
- Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:36 pm
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Another example of government mandated stupidity. Saves electricity but you pay a ton more for the bulbs and with fluorescents you have the mercury to deal with as previously noted. Remember when freon was banned? Of course that was only in this country but the whole world was still using it. Cost Americans a ton of money. Then there is ethanol for fuel. Mandated use that ruins older engines, most boats can't handle the ethanol, drives up food costs because corn is the source. Of course Archers Daniels Crooks love it. Then there are wind turbines that cost more to actually build than they will ever create in energy- of course we give them tax credits. Eagles killed by wind turbines are acceptable but birds killed near a refinery are taboo. It goes on and on. A government out of control. You can't even get a decent toilet bowl anymore.